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you're in the para cast the

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gold-standard a paranormal radio now

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here's gene Stein F Kennedy Randle

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joining us he is I guess one of the

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leading lights behind the Roswell

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research and also the dream team and

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I'll ask him about that he's author of a

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new book called alien mysteries

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conspiracies and cover-ups while not so

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new it's been out for a few months but

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it's worth a read it's a great read one

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fun to read a lot of interesting

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information and you may not agree with

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what he has to say but you'll find quite

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interesting

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Kevin Randle welcome back to the power

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Castro it's glad to have you on it's

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about time

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I've been waiting one two months for you

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to call me you really have huh you know

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if I'll write to him we don't exist

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that's right exactly okay so you had a

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bang-up time over at the Citizen hearing

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for disclosure you were one of the

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featured speakers tell us your reaction

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first of all tell us your what you did

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to have such a great time was it just

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that presentation or we're really just

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raising the heck on the side I used I

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used the opportunity to make contact

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with some people that I needed to talk

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to for my next book I did what I called

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my walking tour one morning I the hotel

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was close to the mall so I went down to

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see the Washington Monument and the

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Vietnam veterans wall and the Lincoln

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Memorial and all of that in an hour and

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a half or so to walk around and see all

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that went up and saw the White House

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took a picture of it so the next time I

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do something on the Washington Nationals

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I have a nice picture of the White House

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I can use it I took personally in that

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respect it was very good I look forward

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to it because the book I just handed in

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was on what you can find in the

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government file secrets of the

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government files and one of the people

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there was John Callahan who was the FAA

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inspector the leader of the

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investigation of the j al 1628 sighting

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over Alaska number of years ago had a

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chance to talk with him had a chance to

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talk to Robert Salas again talk to John

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Burroughs and Henderson about Bentwaters

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so I got an opportunity

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to a lot of the people that I wanted to

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get some new quotes from and that sort

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of thing for the book so it there was a

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in that respect it was a very good

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opportunity for me to do that I did a

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presentation which I talked about some

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of the things going on in the Roswell

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case that don't get a lot of publicity

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and kind of took it in a little bit

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different direction because I knew that

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Stan was going to be doing a

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presentation and Dodge MIT would do one

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so I wanted mine to be a little

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different than them theirs and of course

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we each had our own take on where things

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were going that worked out really well

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and then we did the Roswell panel on one

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afternoon and interestingly enough no

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and Jesse Marcel and members of his

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family on the panel as well it seemed to

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go very smoothly the only thing was I

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had mentioned to them that the former

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senators and congressmen that their take

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on why the project Bluebook attended and

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the Condon committee was kind of an

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error and gave him all short paper that

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actually had appeared on my blog at one

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point about how the Air Force had

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manipulated that whole thing so they had

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a different take on how the book came

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about and be ended so it was an

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opportunity exchanged some ideas with

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people convinced some people of the

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level of research that could often goes

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on in UFO research the credibility of

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the people that were talking to and we

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had an opportunity to just discuss

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things with people and meet some old

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friends and make some new ones okay so

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in terms of Roswell is there anything

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that we should know that really isn't

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getting a lot of attention as we review

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the case over the years well I think the

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problem is the Air Force diverted

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attention away for that with a

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nonsensical project mogul explanation

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and I think that one of the things in

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and you'd mentioned before we went on

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the air we're going to talk about the

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dream team one of the things we have

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done is looked at the project mogul

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stuff very very carefully to see where

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where that goes and you know we've

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always said well flight number four was

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canceled but they flew a mobile flight

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anyway later in the day and if you read

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the diary done by Albert Crary his field

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notes and then the official diary of the

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launches you find out that flight number

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four was in fact canceled and what they

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did was fly a cluster of balloons later

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in the day to test a microphone so

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basically Stingo for the White Sands

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Missile Range area so it didn't get into

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restricted or out of restricted airspace

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and so the idea that project mogul left

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debris of any kind up toward where Mac

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Brazel founded it just simply doesn't

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work I need to reduce mogul to basically

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a footnote it has a explanation that had

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been offered but was upon additional

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research is really not plausible I want

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to ask you one more thing here one of

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the members of your dream team taani

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regalia has come out with a theory that

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the Aztec case may indeed heaven based

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on Roswell it's just a fork in the road

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and that refers to the same case well I

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think anybody who's looked at as tag and

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look at Roswell may have come to babes

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come to that conclusion a long time ago

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I've often thought that that that Silas

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Newton and Leo G Bauer had heard about

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the crash I mean it was in all the

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newspapers the things falling at Roswell

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and so they just took took a hold of

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this idea there was a UFO crash and

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moved it to Aztec because they were

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actually in the area I think trying to

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by loyal leases or sale or sell leases

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to somebody and some kind of a scam they

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had going up there and just plug plug in

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Aztec but I've often thought especially

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right after the Roswell stuff began to

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break and in fact when I first saw the

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Roswell incident block my first thought

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was well this is just Aztec repackaged

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and and I think it's actually the idea

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for a UFO crash may have been generated

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out of the material that came out of

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Roswell but really a speck has no

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relationship to the Roswell case at all

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other than these guy it may have given

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the guys the idea of claiming alien

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technology for their what they call the

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Doodlebug or what they call their their

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little machine it was supposed to be

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able to find oil underground so it's

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basically just a mechanism a scheme to

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take Roswell move it to Aztec and do it

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for their own personal gain I don't

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think there was ever that much conscious

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thought about it you know take at

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Roswell move it to ask that for their

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scheme I think it was the idea of an

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alien spaceship crash and they had

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aliens

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technology that allowed them to invent

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this machine that would would be great

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at finding minerals including oil

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underground and they said it in Aztec

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simply because that was where they were

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working at the time I think the power

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had been to Aztec a couple of times in

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early 1948 so I think it I think it was

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the idea of alien technology being

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involved in their machinery as what was

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what's important and the Roswell case

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really didn't figure into it much at all

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it was just the idea of an alien

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spacecraft crash you could say I suppose

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report Louisiana gave them the idea of

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an alien spaceship crash even though

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sweet pork is a proven hope okay so no

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crashes in the Shreveport okay so why

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then does personalized Scott ramse he

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was a bright guy who's done an awful lot

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of work on this case why does he

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continue to maintain that something

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really happened a stick and I'll give

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you a sign light of this I had lunch

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with Scott Ramsey he was in the Arizona

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area a few months back mostly just to do

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business he does some business here with

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his company and so we sat down and

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talked and he said to me you know I'm

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still getting more information we might

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update the book with some Corrections

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because one of the chapters was

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apparently the wrong version draft

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version so they're going to fix that up

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he's still doing it why you'd have to

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ask him I think that the problem with

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Aztec is it starts with two con men the

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story that Graham details in the book is

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similar to the story told by the two

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common but it diverges the number places

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he quotes in the in the book police

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officers in Sandoval Emmanuel sandal all

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I think it is as if he's actually

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interviewed the guy and the best they've

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done is they found a relative who thinks

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and of all may have said something about

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this so you when you read the book you

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get the idea that Manuel sounds and of

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all who was a policeman and not not an

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Aztec I think the town is Cuba which is

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south east of Aztec if I remember the

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map right and and he was he would you

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get

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impression he was there or he was he was

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interviewed by Ramsey but he but he

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wasn't because hand of all had died long

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before Ramsey got interested in this

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okay so this was maybe a little bit of

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misdirection there which is unfortunate

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because if you try to quote someone who

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heard something who heard something from

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somebody and it's a couple of places

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removed you have no idea what really

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might have happened we have Kevin Randle

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joining us this week he has a recent

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book out called alien mysteries

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conspiracies and cover-ups I'm going to

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ask him a few things about that book

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after we get past Roswell coming up in a

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future episode the power cast will

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explore the book by Richard Toronto

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called war over Lemuria lots more coming

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para cast comm with gene and Chris we've

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got Kevin Randall very prolific author

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you know he hasn't written quite as many

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books as Nick Redfern but he's getting

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up there I'm not talking about his age

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I'm talking about his wisdom in his

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latest book alien mysteries experiences

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and cover-ups I haven't written as many

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books as Nick Redfern no hundred you

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know I think then of course Brad Steiger

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has written two three thousand books if

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you're talking about UFO books it's it's

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either Brad Steiger and I who have

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written the most UFO books we go back

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and forth right because what happens

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here is Nick covers monsters the last

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time we had Nick on we were talking

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about monsters see okay don't count them

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we don't count the monster books and if

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you count my science fiction books in my

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action-adventure books I got well no

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Brad still beats me because he's got

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like a hundred and seventy five books

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he's published them I'm running around

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one hundred and twelve hundred and

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fifteen alright well there you go

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you know let's get back to Toni Berg

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alia again because okay something

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bothers me about him not that he has

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these interesting theories okay he

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doesn't believe in the Socorro New

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Mexico case that's fine entitled to his

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opinion he may have a point here about

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saying that Aztec is really just

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repackaged Roswell all right fine

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ask him to come on the show and I gather

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he claims to be working in a sensitive

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business without going into details

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that's his personal business but he says

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he doesn't want his voice to be heard

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he's willing to do an email interview

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and I think that's absurd

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I think all right you know

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who he is you've read his material what

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difference does it make if we hear his

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voice we're not seeing his face again

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you'd have to ask Tony that I know Tony

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is semi secretive about his personal

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life and it may be that he does a lot of

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stuff on the telephone so if you hear

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his voice on the radio over the Internet

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then he calls you on the phone you

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realize he's the the UFO guy I don't

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know I don't know why he he does I know

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that Tony and I don't agree on a lot of

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stuff but he's very tenacious researcher

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you can find a lot of information about

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find a lot of information and sometimes

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we can't get to because he has a lot of

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additional sources you can bring into

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play so he's very tenacious in his

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research he and I don't agree on a lot

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of things I mean he and I have argued

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about Sakura I I just don't think that

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his explanation that it was a hoax

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created by the students at New Mexico

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mining and Technology there in the coral

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the college or the university there I

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don't think he I don't think he's proof

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in that case but you know he would so he

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has his opinion on that he and I have

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argued about it and we agree to disagree

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on it I don't know why he wouldn't come

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on the radio to talk yeah I always think

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maybe what we could do is just distort

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his voice you know change the frequency

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make his voice deeper make his voice

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higher maybe it also may be that that

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there are people who can think very well

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on the page but if you get them into a

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verbal discussion that they're not as

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eloquent as they could be and that might

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be they might be well the problem there

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too he just doesn't feel that he's he's

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eloquent enough or articulate enough to

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do a radio interview I don't know I mean

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you know who you talk to him on the

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phone haven't you yes but that is really

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quite not quite the same thing as being

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on the radio because you're talking

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one-on-one to somebody and if you if you

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flub your syntax you screw up the

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definition of a word or mispronounce it

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only one person knows you do it on the

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radio and literally thousands and

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thousands of people can hear that

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mistake so yeah I just I don't know I

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don't know why he you wouldn't want to

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come on the radio

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well I invite you to encourage

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I will do so okay tell him that we're

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real Pussycats here now won't ask him

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hard questions and as long as he answers

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the questions we can go on with that

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we'll accept that and we're not going to

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play a little recording that I have I

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haven't used it yet but I was thinking

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of using it when we reference guests who

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won't come on the show it's that of a

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chicken and I think I've just aimed that

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in Whitley Strieber I think he's one of

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the few people who has said I'm not

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gonna come on the show after he says

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he's gonna come on the show which is

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confusing I'm not gonna get into that

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let's get back into Roswell

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would you like my witless creeper story

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sure I'd love it maybe this will

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encourage Woodley's Huber to come on I

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doubt I doubt it seriously maybe it will

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discourage him even further but I don't

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care go ahead back in the olden days

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when Jim Mosely was doing his national

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UFO conventions you know somebody would

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host it when he would show up and I was

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invited to talk about the abduction and

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ignore which had just come out the

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abduction book and I was sitting there

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holding a copy of the book and cerebral

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walked up and he tapped the book and

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says this is not true and he walked off

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that's my whole my whole interaction

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with extremer right there all right well

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I know he and Budd Hopkins didn't see

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eye to eye I remember this goes back I

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guess to the late 1980s I'm sitting in

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my home and I get a phone call hi this

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is butt Hopkins I didn't even know he

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had my phone number it wasn't listed but

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okay fine

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and he told me his feelings about

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Whitley Strieber that I will shall not

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repeat even though but Hopkins is no

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longer around it was too involved to get

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into I didn't take notes so it wouldn't

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be fair I'd be misquoting a conversation

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that's what 25 years old and these two

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guys just didn't get along you thought

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you know at one point they were sort of

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working together in the early days and

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then they had some sort of falling-out

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there you go back to Roswell though

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let's get back to Roswell

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okay all right very briefly before we go

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on with Roswell is there anything that

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your new research were you looking at

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this thing as a cold case trying to put

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a fresh coat of paint on it figure out

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what's going on anything you've learned

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that changes your perceptions or gives

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us something that's closer to a smoking

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gun well yeah I think we might be coming

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closer to the smoking gun on a couple of

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avenues of research and one of those

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deals of course with the Ramey memo and

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applying today's technology to that that

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photograph that they didn't have 15-20

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years ago that we might be able to

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actually digitize it and come up with a

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method of reading that paper that is

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duplicatable by other people so it's not

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just well this is what we think we see

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it's here's what we did to get to this

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point if you follow these steps you may

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get to the same point okay I need to

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backtrack here because our listeners are

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going to say why is he talking about

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what paper where okay back in 1947 right

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after the Roswell crash had happened

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material was sent to Fort Worth Texas

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which was the higher headquarters of 509

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Bomb Group in the wilds well Roger Ramey

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was the commanding general the Air Force

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there were a series of photographs of

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him taken in his office on July 8th 1947

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so we have we have a provenance for the

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photograph we actually have the cut line

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that was sent out with the photograph

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that dates it so we we know precisely

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when it was taken we know precisely when

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it was sent and we know who's in it

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because it's Roger Ramey's holding this

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piece of paper so we know we have a good

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Providence I can't think of a better

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Providence they have two guys holding a

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paper so you can see it the problem is

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the camera wasn't focused on the paper

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was of course focused on raining so the

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paper is somewhat blurry there are some

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words that you can actually read on the

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paper by looking at a blow-up of the

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photograph I mean you don't even need a

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magnifying glass one of the you can see

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Fort Worth Texas and you see weather

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balloons I mean easily see that so

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everybody can see that but the paper was

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slightly folded and folded it wasn't

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straight on so there is a most of the

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messages is somewhat blurry you can make

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out almost words you can see where the

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words were and what they've done in the

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past is is using our computer technology

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our software to try to enhance that

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portion of the photograph to come up

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with what it says and there's been a

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long

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about this we're gonna maybe do a CSI

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life hi this is Don Ecker and you are

643
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tuned in to the para cast let me tell

644
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you what you're gonna hear stuff here

645
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that you probably won't hear anywhere

646
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else

647
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hear that George snoring on the power

648
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cast with gene and Chris we have Kevin D

649
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Rendell and we're focusing on their

650
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dream team and the studies of the

651
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:25,470
Roswell case and we're focusing on a

652
00:27:30,110 --> 00:27:28,320
photograph of a document and you're

653
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using computer enhancement and I think

654
00:27:37,730 --> 00:27:34,590
on TV shows basically police procedurals

655
00:27:40,610 --> 00:27:37,740
or CSI they are always focusing on some

656
00:27:44,090 --> 00:27:40,620
document or something and sharpening it

657
00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:44,100
up and making it readable so tell us

658
00:27:48,410 --> 00:27:46,080
more what have you accomplished so far

659
00:27:50,690 --> 00:27:48,420
that is that that's exactly what we're

660
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:50,700
attempting to do the problem is usually

661
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on those programs they've got a little

662
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bit better straight on view of the

663
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whatever they're trying to enhance so

664
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that they can they can bring it forward

665
00:28:03,770 --> 00:28:00,480
we're dealing with something that was

666
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taken on photographic film over 60 years

667
00:28:09,050 --> 00:28:06,450
ago and and the paper was slightly

668
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:09,060
turned it was full slightly folded in

669
00:28:13,150 --> 00:28:11,250
and it was not the area focus of the

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photograph so we're we're dealing with

671
00:28:17,930 --> 00:28:15,300
some problems that they wouldn't have

672
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:17,940
been dealing at would don't CSI type

673
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:20,490
programs but what we've been able to do

674
00:28:25,550 --> 00:28:23,610
using modern software is enhance it and

675
00:28:27,380 --> 00:28:25,560
I really inhibit a to use the word

676
00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:27,390
enhance because that implies we've added

677
00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:29,310
something too and all we've done is kind

678
00:28:33,020 --> 00:28:31,200
of sharpen the image to a focus on the

679
00:28:35,170 --> 00:28:33,030
image so that we can read it a little

680
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:35,180
bit better and look at the point where

681
00:28:40,130 --> 00:28:38,130
we think we we think we've got something

682
00:28:42,590 --> 00:28:40,140
fairly interesting going on but we've

683
00:28:44,780 --> 00:28:42,600
got to we've got additional steps to

684
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:44,790
take so you know we're getting to a

685
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:46,050
point where we can read a little bit

686
00:28:49,580 --> 00:28:48,090
more of it a little bit understand it a

687
00:28:53,330 --> 00:28:49,590
little bit better and if certain phrases

688
00:28:54,890 --> 00:28:53,340
pop up then we've got we've got some

689
00:28:57,890 --> 00:28:54,900
very very persuasive evidence yet the

690
00:28:59,420 --> 00:28:57,900
problem we have is too often priming

691
00:29:01,220 --> 00:28:59,430
comes into play in priming is a

692
00:29:02,930 --> 00:29:01,230
psychological term which means that you

693
00:29:05,810 --> 00:29:02,940
set somebody up to see something by

694
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:05,820
suggesting it to them and Jim heron and

695
00:29:11,270 --> 00:29:07,650
I had done an experiment back in the

696
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:11,280
1990s in which we used that document of

697
00:29:16,700 --> 00:29:14,370
Amy memo in to three different groups a

698
00:29:18,110 --> 00:29:16,710
control group a group that was told well

699
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:18,120
this has something to do with Rozlyn

700
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:19,410
group it says this has something to do

701
00:29:25,230 --> 00:29:23,730
with atomic weaponry and and then ask

702
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:25,240
these

703
00:29:30,180 --> 00:29:27,370
the subjects to see what they could make

704
00:29:31,740 --> 00:29:30,190
out on it and the priming did did

705
00:29:33,450 --> 00:29:31,750
influence them by telling them it was

706
00:29:35,549 --> 00:29:33,460
something to do with it atomic weaponry

707
00:29:39,419 --> 00:29:35,559
they saw things in the memo that

708
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:39,429
suggested that to them and so there were

709
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:40,809
there were areas where we got good

710
00:29:44,190 --> 00:29:42,730
agreement on what the words were people

711
00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:44,200
could see the words and they all agreed

712
00:29:48,539 --> 00:29:46,510
on it and other places where depending

713
00:29:50,940 --> 00:29:48,549
on the group they were in they saw

714
00:29:52,769 --> 00:29:50,950
things of the word that comes to mind is

715
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:52,779
flash which I don't thinks in the in the

716
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:55,330
men in the memo at all but the atomic

717
00:29:58,620 --> 00:29:57,250
weaponry group saw the word flash in

718
00:30:01,919 --> 00:29:58,630
there somewhere like an atomic flash

719
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:01,929
when the bomb went off so we were trying

720
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:04,809
to trying to compensate for all of that

721
00:30:08,159 --> 00:30:06,490
meaning simply we were trying to make

722
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:08,169
sure we're not we're not engaged in

723
00:30:13,980 --> 00:30:11,770
priming we're not engaged in leading the

724
00:30:15,690 --> 00:30:13,990
the people doing the research force in a

725
00:30:19,860 --> 00:30:15,700
direction so we're making some progress

726
00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:19,870
and and we hope to hope to have some

727
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:21,760
very definitive results we've got some

728
00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:23,250
good good results and some people are

729
00:30:27,180 --> 00:30:25,809
sharpening the images a little bit so

730
00:30:28,740 --> 00:30:27,190
we're so we're working in that direction

731
00:30:31,139 --> 00:30:28,750
and once we get that all put together

732
00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:31,149
will release exactly what we've done and

733
00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:32,710
how we've done it and how we got to this

734
00:30:38,549 --> 00:30:34,960
point so that everybody can see the

735
00:30:40,380 --> 00:30:38,559
steps we took to get there and then then

736
00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:40,390
begin then then the skeptics can begin

737
00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:42,100
to pick it apart well the thing that I

738
00:30:46,620 --> 00:30:44,289
asked here is can you say anything at

739
00:30:50,430 --> 00:30:46,630
all or give us a hint where this is

740
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:50,440
going or is it too premature a little

741
00:30:53,220 --> 00:30:51,730
bit premature but the argument is always

742
00:30:54,570 --> 00:30:53,230
been about a key phrase called victims

743
00:30:56,370 --> 00:30:54,580
of the wreck which is in the first line

744
00:30:58,769 --> 00:30:56,380
of a Rainey memo if it says victims of

745
00:31:00,600 --> 00:30:58,779
the wreck that's pretty pretty

746
00:31:03,090 --> 00:31:00,610
persuasive evidence that that that we

747
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:03,100
were dealing with something that crashed

748
00:31:07,110 --> 00:31:04,570
and there were there were victims of it

749
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:07,120
if it says remains of the rack well

750
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:08,529
that's something else again because you

751
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:10,330
the remains could in fact be the weather

752
00:31:15,810 --> 00:31:12,970
balloon that that was recovered victims

753
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:15,820
implies there was occupants remains

754
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:18,730
doesn't doesn't make that implication so

755
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:20,770
we're focusing on on that phrase and I

756
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:21,970
don't think everybody knows we've been

757
00:31:27,630 --> 00:31:23,529
focusing on that phrase there's another

758
00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:27,640
couple of key phrases that relate to the

759
00:31:32,639 --> 00:31:29,289
shape of the object so we're just we're

760
00:31:35,730 --> 00:31:32,649
just attempting to to sharpen sharpen

761
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:35,740
that up in a way that we do not add

762
00:31:38,549 --> 00:31:37,570
anything to what all we're doing is

763
00:31:41,340 --> 00:31:38,559
clarifying what the

764
00:31:43,379 --> 00:31:41,350
it says and and unfortunately in the CFI

765
00:31:45,330 --> 00:31:43,389
program they always they can only just

766
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:45,340
focus right in on the thing and bring up

767
00:31:50,639 --> 00:31:48,370
the most obscure detail and it's this

768
00:31:52,379 --> 00:31:50,649
just isn't working quite that well of

769
00:31:54,749 --> 00:31:52,389
course I'm a CSI program you have

770
00:31:56,999 --> 00:31:54,759
forty-three minutes to get it all done

771
00:32:02,190 --> 00:31:57,009
the case that may take days or weeks or

772
00:32:03,810 --> 00:32:02,200
months to resolve and they have access

773
00:32:06,090 --> 00:32:03,820
to technology that doesn't even exist

774
00:32:08,249 --> 00:32:06,100
yet well you know big deal with the

775
00:32:10,369 --> 00:32:08,259
people over at area 51 they consult I

776
00:32:12,989 --> 00:32:10,379
mean this is a show about Las Vegas

777
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:12,999
Criminal Investigations so they've got

778
00:32:19,109 --> 00:32:17,289
an area 51 over there and you have

779
00:32:21,659 --> 00:32:19,119
people like powerhouse producers like

780
00:32:23,970 --> 00:32:21,669
Jerry Bruckheimer who's responsible for

781
00:32:26,519 --> 00:32:23,980
that show so he calls up somebody at the

782
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:26,529
NSA and says let's have some new

783
00:32:30,539 --> 00:32:28,090
inventions here of course you look at

784
00:32:32,580 --> 00:32:30,549
how the government knows about us anyway

785
00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:32,590
look at Person of Interest ever see that

786
00:32:40,289 --> 00:32:37,929
show know you've heard about it okay so

787
00:32:43,289 --> 00:32:40,299
that's science fiction I guess guy

788
00:32:45,299 --> 00:32:43,299
builds this computer that sees

789
00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:45,309
everything and knows everything but

790
00:32:48,989 --> 00:32:46,960
there's a backdoor that spits out

791
00:32:51,389 --> 00:32:48,999
information about people who may be in

792
00:32:54,060 --> 00:32:51,399
trouble because they will be victims of

793
00:32:55,980 --> 00:32:54,070
a crime or will commit a crime and

794
00:32:57,570 --> 00:32:55,990
therefore you have these two people

795
00:33:00,989 --> 00:32:57,580
played by Michael Emerson and Jim

796
00:33:03,119 --> 00:33:00,999
Caviezel who go out and save them well

797
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:03,129
there used to be a program on number of

798
00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:05,529
years ago where the guy got tomorrow's

799
00:33:09,359 --> 00:33:07,809
newspaper today and so he would go

800
00:33:12,299 --> 00:33:09,369
through it and save people from crimes

801
00:33:14,340 --> 00:33:12,309
and things like that the early edition

802
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:14,350
was it was what it was called and he

803
00:33:19,379 --> 00:33:16,809
just happened to get he'd get the next

804
00:33:21,539 --> 00:33:19,389
day's newspaper a day early through some

805
00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:21,549
kind of time-warp and so he could go out

806
00:33:25,310 --> 00:33:22,809
and do this what's this I get the same

807
00:33:28,499 --> 00:33:25,320
thing yeah let me just ask you the

808
00:33:31,649 --> 00:33:28,509
devil's advocate question yeah before we

809
00:33:33,419 --> 00:33:31,659
split for this segment that is okay so

810
00:33:37,070 --> 00:33:33,429
we talked about the possibility that

811
00:33:43,830 --> 00:33:37,080
this memo is speaking of wreckage why

812
00:33:46,769 --> 00:33:43,840
not a crashed test aircraft because the

813
00:33:48,659 --> 00:33:46,779
Air Force told us that there was nothing

814
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:48,669
to tell in that time frame there's

815
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:51,250
nothing that was classified in 1947 that

816
00:33:57,239 --> 00:33:52,450
we don't know about today

817
00:33:59,070 --> 00:33:57,249
in the terms of experimentation with new

818
00:34:01,229 --> 00:33:59,080
aircraft and the Air Force looked into

819
00:34:03,570 --> 00:34:01,239
that in 1995 and said that there was

820
00:34:06,060 --> 00:34:03,580
nothing like that if it was a test

821
00:34:07,409 --> 00:34:06,070
aircraft that crashed in 1947 what what

822
00:34:10,319 --> 00:34:07,419
sort of technology would have been in

823
00:34:12,359 --> 00:34:10,329
that would that that wouldn't have

824
00:34:13,980 --> 00:34:12,369
already been deployed in some fashion so

825
00:34:15,450 --> 00:34:13,990
that our adversaries in the world would

826
00:34:18,329 --> 00:34:15,460
know about it second of all it would be

827
00:34:19,819 --> 00:34:18,339
so far outdated by our technological

828
00:34:22,049 --> 00:34:19,829
leaps that it would be virtually useless

829
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:22,059
the same thing with rockets we have a

830
00:34:25,349 --> 00:34:23,649
listing I have a listing of all the

831
00:34:28,980 --> 00:34:25,359
rockets fired from White Sands Missile

832
00:34:30,389 --> 00:34:28,990
Range through the mid-1950s and they're

833
00:34:33,180 --> 00:34:30,399
all accounted for there's nothing

834
00:34:35,490 --> 00:34:33,190
missing from from the record so we can

835
00:34:37,109 --> 00:34:35,500
look at the records we can look at the

836
00:34:40,169 --> 00:34:37,119
documentation exist and say it's not

837
00:34:42,930 --> 00:34:40,179
this because and it's the same thing for

838
00:34:44,309 --> 00:34:42,940
a some kind of a test aircraft we have

839
00:34:46,799 --> 00:34:44,319
been told early on in the investigation

840
00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:46,809
that it had been an early attempt to put

841
00:34:50,309 --> 00:34:49,030
somebody into orbit that had crashed and

842
00:34:52,049 --> 00:34:50,319
they had killed you know the people had

843
00:34:53,700 --> 00:34:52,059
been killed in the crash and you think

844
00:34:55,649 --> 00:34:53,710
well this would be a reason certainly to

845
00:34:56,970 --> 00:34:55,659
cover it up because you just killed a

846
00:34:59,180 --> 00:34:56,980
bunch of people for no reason

847
00:35:01,680 --> 00:34:59,190
but we could never find any anything to

848
00:35:05,609 --> 00:35:01,690
say that was what what it was there was

849
00:35:07,289 --> 00:35:05,619
no evidence whatsoever and like I said

850
00:35:08,730 --> 00:35:07,299
we spent time at the White Sands Missile

851
00:35:11,250 --> 00:35:08,740
Range and we went through the records

852
00:35:13,020 --> 00:35:11,260
and they were very helpful with this so

853
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:13,030
we looked at all that kind of

854
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:14,770
experimentation that might account for

855
00:35:17,819 --> 00:35:16,450
this we couldn't find anything to that

856
00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:17,829
was even suggested in fact that the

857
00:35:23,970 --> 00:35:19,569
White Sands Missile Range had lost a

858
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:23,980
missile in May of 47 crashed got off the

859
00:35:27,839 --> 00:35:25,690
range and the range officer couldn't get

860
00:35:30,030 --> 00:35:27,849
it destroyed and it fell near juarez

861
00:35:31,890 --> 00:35:30,040
mexico they could crash near a cemetery

862
00:35:35,309 --> 00:35:31,900
nobody was hurt but they had a

863
00:35:37,319 --> 00:35:35,319
moratorium on firings up through July

864
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:37,329
3rd I think it was and the July 3rd

865
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:39,609
firing the thing blew up on the pad and

866
00:35:44,910 --> 00:35:41,890
injured a bunch of people so we can say

867
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:44,920
it from you know period of of mid May

868
00:35:49,950 --> 00:35:47,890
1947 up through the first week in July

869
00:35:51,660 --> 00:35:49,960
of 1947 they didn't fire anything at

870
00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:51,670
White Sands because there was moratorium

871
00:35:55,890 --> 00:35:53,710
on firings because of that accident May

872
00:35:57,210 --> 00:35:55,900
so we've looked at all those records and

873
00:35:58,980 --> 00:35:57,220
we couldn't find anything about that

874
00:36:01,380 --> 00:35:58,990
would be the expression why it can't be

875
00:36:02,910 --> 00:36:01,390
an experimental aircraft it can't be a

876
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:02,920
rocket or anything like that could we

877
00:36:05,530 --> 00:36:04,930
looked at we couldn't find anything so

878
00:36:07,150 --> 00:36:05,540
it could

879
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:07,160
not have been something that we picked

880
00:36:11,860 --> 00:36:09,770
up from the Germans because by now that

881
00:36:13,780 --> 00:36:11,870
information would have come out it's not

882
00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:13,790
something that would we want to classify

883
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:16,640
that's returned as we move into our next

884
00:36:20,860 --> 00:36:19,010
segment just briefly to the Citizen

885
00:36:23,830 --> 00:36:20,870
hearing on disclosure we've done a

886
00:36:26,260 --> 00:36:23,840
number of sessions are partly because

887
00:36:28,090 --> 00:36:26,270
Chris O'Brien was one of the camera

888
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:28,100
people working with her on James and

889
00:36:32,590 --> 00:36:30,110
producing the video feed from that thing

890
00:36:34,750 --> 00:36:32,600
we've got Kevin D Randle joining us the

891
00:36:36,190 --> 00:36:34,760
book is alien mysteries conspiracies and

892
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:36,200
cover-ups we'll get to that in a moment

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[Music]

996
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:08,370
this is the wrong tire co-author of the

997
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:10,650
UFO encyclopedia in other books you're

998
00:41:18,770 --> 00:41:17,280
listening to the parrot cap so possibly

999
00:41:21,410 --> 00:41:18,780
because we don't hear from Chris O'Brien

1000
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:21,420
on this episode do you think Kevin

1001
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:23,970
Randle that he's chris is avoiding you I

1002
00:41:29,090 --> 00:41:26,970
wouldn't see no reason for that I saw I

1003
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:29,100
saw him in Washington DC we said hello

1004
00:41:33,770 --> 00:41:32,160
and never crossed paths again but I he

1005
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:33,780
was very busy with with what he was

1006
00:41:38,090 --> 00:41:36,450
doing I was off having a good time

1007
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:38,100
oh and he hasn't really told us about

1008
00:41:41,420 --> 00:41:39,810
all the wacky things he did just kind of

1009
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:41,430
straight ahead things okay I think one

1010
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:43,530
of the criticisms made about the Citizen

1011
00:41:49,010 --> 00:41:47,010
hearing of disclosure is that some of

1012
00:41:51,710 --> 00:41:49,020
the people very few of the people there

1013
00:41:54,140 --> 00:41:51,720
maybe if there was a proper vetting

1014
00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:54,150
process should not have been there

1015
00:41:59,360 --> 00:41:56,250
because they don't really help in terms

1016
00:42:03,170 --> 00:41:59,370
of presenting a scientific case for UFOs

1017
00:42:06,670 --> 00:42:03,180
I think you know what I mean well yes if

1018
00:42:08,810 --> 00:42:06,680
I if I was picking the people to present

1019
00:42:11,870 --> 00:42:08,820
at this there would have been some

1020
00:42:14,060 --> 00:42:11,880
people I would have avoided picking and

1021
00:42:16,850 --> 00:42:14,070
and and that that really comes down to

1022
00:42:21,620 --> 00:42:16,860
more of a personal preference to you

1023
00:42:22,850 --> 00:42:21,630
know i well to be honest I wouldn't have

1024
00:42:25,460 --> 00:42:22,860
done anything on mj-12

1025
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:25,470
I think most people in the UFO community

1026
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:27,570
I mean most people who know anything

1027
00:42:32,090 --> 00:42:29,850
about Mt 12 realized that the thing was

1028
00:42:35,570 --> 00:42:32,100
a hoax from the very beginning and there

1029
00:42:39,110 --> 00:42:35,580
was there was a two-hour discussion

1030
00:42:40,700 --> 00:42:39,120
about mj-12 III wouldn't have that

1031
00:42:43,700 --> 00:42:40,710
discussion which is not to say that the

1032
00:42:46,670 --> 00:42:43,710
robert woods isn't a good guy he's very

1033
00:42:48,020 --> 00:42:46,680
very knowledgeable very intelligent he

1034
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:48,030
hasn't answered my question about

1035
00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:50,880
project Aquarius yet which is really the

1036
00:42:54,740 --> 00:42:53,040
first incarnation of mj-12

1037
00:42:58,790 --> 00:42:54,750
when that didn't fly they came up with

1038
00:43:00,770 --> 00:42:58,800
mj-12 but I would have avoided mj-12 for

1039
00:43:02,330 --> 00:43:00,780
example but but on the other side of the

1040
00:43:04,940 --> 00:43:02,340
clinic I thought that the things done

1041
00:43:07,310 --> 00:43:04,950
with with the Bentwaters guys was very

1042
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:07,320
interesting the the missile errors the

1043
00:43:10,430 --> 00:43:08,970
guys in the missile silos was very

1044
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:10,440
interesting because here you've got guys

1045
00:43:16,370 --> 00:43:13,530
who had very responsible jobs and

1046
00:43:18,170 --> 00:43:16,380
they're talking about UFOs knocking our

1047
00:43:19,310 --> 00:43:18,180
missiles off line which if the Soviets

1048
00:43:21,050 --> 00:43:19,320
had been able to do something

1049
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:21,060
like that would have been very

1050
00:43:24,620 --> 00:43:22,650
frightening so that becomes an issue of

1051
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:24,630
national security at that point that the

1052
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:26,490
UFOs could not Cammisa lifeline which

1053
00:43:31,010 --> 00:43:28,170
means all that stuff was not part of the

1054
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:31,020
Bluebook system so you've got some very

1055
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:32,370
interesting things like that going on

1056
00:43:35,450 --> 00:43:33,690
and you've got some stuff that I didn't

1057
00:43:38,030 --> 00:43:35,460
agree with but I know that's my personal

1058
00:43:39,620 --> 00:43:38,040
opinion what sort of reaction have you

1059
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:39,630
seen to the Citizen hearing on

1060
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:41,130
disclosure the New York Times did a

1061
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:44,010
pretty favorable piece but others kind

1062
00:43:51,260 --> 00:43:48,170
of exaggerated the more negative aspects

1063
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:51,270
they always do oh there was there was

1064
00:43:54,770 --> 00:43:52,890
one newspaper I don't know what it was

1065
00:43:56,330 --> 00:43:54,780
kept kept going to the woowoo crowd

1066
00:43:58,190 --> 00:43:56,340
there were apparently two people that

1067
00:44:00,380 --> 00:43:58,200
were wearing headbands with crystals on

1068
00:44:01,460 --> 00:44:00,390
them one day there I never saw them so I

1069
00:44:03,020 --> 00:44:01,470
don't know that they were there I know

1070
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:03,030
that the newspaper also printed a

1071
00:44:07,490 --> 00:44:05,730
picture of guys with green face paint on

1072
00:44:09,830 --> 00:44:07,500
playing instruments at some outdoor

1073
00:44:11,090 --> 00:44:09,840
venue which was not part of this at all

1074
00:44:12,620 --> 00:44:11,100
they weren't even there they just had a

1075
00:44:14,030 --> 00:44:12,630
picture of guys in green paint so he

1076
00:44:15,830 --> 00:44:14,040
threw it up there as if this was part of

1077
00:44:18,740 --> 00:44:15,840
what was going on in Washington so that

1078
00:44:22,070 --> 00:44:18,750
coverage was was not only unfair it was

1079
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:22,080
untrue do you think they'll Kevin that

1080
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:24,930
this kind of coverage is done because

1081
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:26,730
they just don't believe in UFOs there's

1082
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:29,610
a corporate edict to stay away from the

1083
00:44:35,930 --> 00:44:34,170
subject what is that they know that

1084
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:35,940
there's no such thing as alien

1085
00:44:40,820 --> 00:44:38,370
visitation ergo there can be any proof

1086
00:44:42,230 --> 00:44:40,830
of various alien visitation so the only

1087
00:44:46,010 --> 00:44:42,240
thing they can do is make fun of it

1088
00:44:48,410 --> 00:44:46,020
because if they if they even suggest

1089
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:48,420
that they might be interested in this

1090
00:44:52,970 --> 00:44:50,250
and then they get tarred with the brush

1091
00:44:55,370 --> 00:44:52,980
of being being a nutcase and I think

1092
00:44:56,930 --> 00:44:55,380
that that's going going through the

1093
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:56,940
whole the whole media it's going through

1094
00:45:00,800 --> 00:44:58,290
the scientific community as well and

1095
00:45:02,180 --> 00:45:00,810
we've documented that time and again dan

1096
00:45:04,340 --> 00:45:02,190
schmidt and I were going to do an

1097
00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:04,350
interview at the Chicago Tribune right

1098
00:45:08,540 --> 00:45:05,730
after our first Roswell book had come

1099
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:08,550
out and we ended up doing the interview

1100
00:45:13,820 --> 00:45:10,530
in the hallway with a with an intern and

1101
00:45:15,290 --> 00:45:13,830
she told us that the editors knew that

1102
00:45:16,580 --> 00:45:15,300
there was nothing to this and so that

1103
00:45:17,780 --> 00:45:16,590
was why she was assigned took it

1104
00:45:19,700 --> 00:45:17,790
wouldn't even look at the evidence

1105
00:45:20,990 --> 00:45:19,710
they were interested in the evidence I

1106
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:21,000
think one of the things that happened

1107
00:45:26,210 --> 00:45:22,610
one of things that was important here

1108
00:45:28,130 --> 00:45:26,220
was that an awful lot of credible

1109
00:45:30,740 --> 00:45:28,140
evidence was presented you had people

1110
00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:30,750
who were clearly who they said they were

1111
00:45:35,390 --> 00:45:33,119
who had experiences John Callahan

1112
00:45:37,849 --> 00:45:35,400
example from the FAA was there and he's

1113
00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:37,859
he's got boxes of material that he

1114
00:45:42,650 --> 00:45:39,569
brought him to show the radar tracings

1115
00:45:46,370 --> 00:45:42,660
from the the Japanese airliner flight

1116
00:45:47,450 --> 00:45:46,380
that was bugged by the UFO back in 1986

1117
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:47,460
1987

1118
00:45:51,620 --> 00:45:49,650
he's got the radar cave traces he's got

1119
00:45:54,170 --> 00:45:51,630
all this documentation he's got the the

1120
00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:54,180
video of the radar scopes and everything

1121
00:45:59,390 --> 00:45:56,880
like that so instead of saying well you

1122
00:46:00,739 --> 00:45:59,400
know this airplane was buzzed by a UFO

1123
00:46:02,210 --> 00:46:00,749
he says well you know here's the

1124
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:02,220
documentation for it here's what

1125
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:04,410
happened here's what the people said and

1126
00:46:09,470 --> 00:46:07,200
I know that when the skeptics got a got

1127
00:46:11,749 --> 00:46:09,480
a hold of the the Japanese case they

1128
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:11,759
said well you know what the guy was

1129
00:46:16,789 --> 00:46:13,650
seeing was extra trust of course but it

1130
00:46:18,829 --> 00:46:16,799
was Jupiter and Mars who were in sort of

1131
00:46:21,230 --> 00:46:18,839
a position where they might have been

1132
00:46:24,890 --> 00:46:21,240
mistaken for something what right right

1133
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:24,900
UFO like objects but if you go back and

1134
00:46:28,339 --> 00:46:26,880
you look at the descriptions given by

1135
00:46:30,109 --> 00:46:28,349
the airline kook well clearly if that

1136
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:30,119
doesn't fit and Jupiter and Mars don't

1137
00:46:34,430 --> 00:46:32,130
show up on the radar scopes

1138
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:34,440
there were radar there were two separate

1139
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:36,210
radar tracking of the thing from two

1140
00:46:39,529 --> 00:46:38,249
separate radars so you've got you've got

1141
00:46:41,180 --> 00:46:39,539
some very persuasive evidence so when

1142
00:46:42,529 --> 00:46:41,190
you look at that sort of thing and you

1143
00:46:45,019 --> 00:46:42,539
have an opportunity to percent this

1144
00:46:46,609 --> 00:46:45,029
persuasive evidence and the one thing

1145
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:46,619
that I did was when they talked about

1146
00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:49,200
the ending of Project Blue Book I talked

1147
00:46:55,370 --> 00:46:50,880
to them about the Hitler letter Hitler

1148
00:46:57,229 --> 00:46:55,380
was a Air Force officer who who wrote to

1149
00:46:59,329 --> 00:46:57,239
the Condon committee explaining to him

1150
00:47:01,039 --> 00:46:59,339
what they wanted to do we've got to end

1151
00:47:02,420 --> 00:47:01,049
the end project Bluebook we've got to

1152
00:47:04,099 --> 00:47:02,430
explain it in such a way the public is

1153
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:04,109
satisfied we've got to say some positive

1154
00:47:07,549 --> 00:47:06,089
things about the Air Force handling of

1155
00:47:11,089 --> 00:47:07,559
the investigation when we got a close

1156
00:47:12,289 --> 00:47:11,099
Blue Book and a Robert Lowe from the

1157
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:12,299
Condit committee Welbeck said yeah we

1158
00:47:16,549 --> 00:47:13,890
got it we'll do that and then the next

1159
00:47:18,529 --> 00:47:16,559
thing you know Condon is saying well I'm

1160
00:47:19,489 --> 00:47:18,539
inclined to end this thing right now but

1161
00:47:21,710 --> 00:47:19,499
I'm not supposed to come to that

1162
00:47:23,890 --> 00:47:21,720
conclusion for another 18 months so I

1163
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:23,900
mean we can demonstrate through the

1164
00:47:28,339 --> 00:47:26,249
documentation that this the ending of

1165
00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:28,349
Project Blue Book was really a

1166
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:30,960
conspiracy to end Project Blue Book and

1167
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:32,640
convince the public there was nothing to

1168
00:47:37,729 --> 00:47:35,970
UFOs you go through the the Condon

1169
00:47:39,650 --> 00:47:37,739
committee report 35 percent of the cases

1170
00:47:41,749 --> 00:47:39,660
aren't explained one of them is

1171
00:47:44,299 --> 00:47:41,759
explained as a natural phenomenon so

1172
00:47:46,190 --> 00:47:44,309
rare that has never been seen before

1173
00:47:46,579 --> 00:47:46,200
since I mean that's right in the Condon

1174
00:47:48,380 --> 00:47:46,589
20

1175
00:47:50,450 --> 00:47:48,390
important you would think scientifically

1176
00:47:53,150 --> 00:47:50,460
speaking that if you'd identified

1177
00:47:54,559 --> 00:47:53,160
something like that natural phenomena

1178
00:47:56,660 --> 00:47:54,569
that rare that you'd want to do

1179
00:47:58,759 --> 00:47:56,670
something more to investigate it to see

1180
00:48:00,049 --> 00:47:58,769
what else it might explain but they

1181
00:48:02,299 --> 00:48:00,059
don't do that throughout there's nothing

1182
00:48:04,219 --> 00:48:02,309
to it we're going to stop it now and and

1183
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:04,229
so we were able to present a lot of

1184
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:07,410
evidence to people who were fairly

1185
00:48:10,489 --> 00:48:08,910
skeptical about that there'd be

1186
00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:10,499
congressional representatives they were

1187
00:48:13,969 --> 00:48:12,569
skeptical about what was going on we had

1188
00:48:16,009 --> 00:48:13,979
an opportunity to present some very

1189
00:48:17,959 --> 00:48:16,019
credible evidence if I did not agree

1190
00:48:19,579 --> 00:48:17,969
with some of the evidence and again I go

1191
00:48:21,499 --> 00:48:19,589
back to MJ's well if I did not agree

1192
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:21,509
with the evidence that wasn't my call

1193
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:24,930
and I just avoided that session so I

1194
00:48:29,180 --> 00:48:26,729
said in one session with Stan Friedman

1195
00:48:30,410 --> 00:48:29,190
right right beside me and the first

1196
00:48:32,359 --> 00:48:30,420
session and they were doing some of the

1197
00:48:35,089 --> 00:48:32,369
history and they were talking about

1198
00:48:37,309 --> 00:48:35,099
where weather balloons where the project

1199
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:37,319
mogul balloons were launched and the

1200
00:48:40,999 --> 00:48:39,359
panelists but historians didn't couldn't

1201
00:48:42,769 --> 00:48:41,009
seem to answer the question and Stan and

1202
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:42,779
I shouted out about the same time

1203
00:48:47,269 --> 00:48:44,130
Alamogordo they were launched in

1204
00:48:48,650 --> 00:48:47,279
Alamogordo and so there was a lot of

1205
00:48:50,900 --> 00:48:48,660
that sort of stuff going on but I think

1206
00:48:52,519 --> 00:48:50,910
I think overall you take a look at the

1207
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:52,529
evidence presented and documentation

1208
00:48:57,019 --> 00:48:55,200
presented that it made a very favorable

1209
00:48:59,059 --> 00:48:57,029
profession and I sat down with the New

1210
00:49:01,279 --> 00:48:59,069
York Times guy for an hour and a half

1211
00:49:04,849 --> 00:49:01,289
and chatted with him about that to make

1212
00:49:06,529 --> 00:49:04,859
sure that he understood that the

1213
00:49:10,279 --> 00:49:06,539
perception that there's no good evidence

1214
00:49:12,499 --> 00:49:10,289
for UFOs or alien visitation is simply

1215
00:49:14,450 --> 00:49:12,509
not true and all you need to do is tell

1216
00:49:16,099 --> 00:49:14,460
me what you want in the way of evidence

1217
00:49:17,959 --> 00:49:16,109
and I will point you in that direction

1218
00:49:20,539 --> 00:49:17,969
and you can go take a look at it and see

1219
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:20,549
if it's persuasive to you what was his

1220
00:49:24,589 --> 00:49:21,930
reaction did he give you some

1221
00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:24,599
information he'd like you to look up I

1222
00:49:29,299 --> 00:49:27,119
would just I was directing him to

1223
00:49:32,089 --> 00:49:29,309
information we chatted with him a number

1224
00:49:33,410 --> 00:49:32,099
of times he and Don Schmitt night

1225
00:49:34,849 --> 00:49:33,420
general within a number of times and all

1226
00:49:39,499 --> 00:49:34,859
we were doing was providing him with

1227
00:49:41,569 --> 00:49:39,509
with with the evidence for you for a

1228
00:49:42,859 --> 00:49:41,579
lien visitation they say well there's

1229
00:49:43,969 --> 00:49:42,869
you know no good evidence what do you

1230
00:49:45,380 --> 00:49:43,979
want a lot photographs there's some

1231
00:49:47,209 --> 00:49:45,390
pretty good photographs you want movie

1232
00:49:49,459 --> 00:49:47,219
footage so very good movie footage you

1233
00:49:52,999 --> 00:49:49,469
want landing trace cases there's 4,500

1234
00:49:54,890 --> 00:49:53,009
of them you want radar cases yeah

1235
00:49:56,839 --> 00:49:54,900
we've got we've got cases with multiple

1236
00:49:59,359 --> 00:49:56,849
chains of evidence but Levelland case

1237
00:50:00,020 --> 00:49:59,369
from 1957 for crying out loud you had

1238
00:50:03,110 --> 00:50:00,030
witness

1239
00:50:05,060 --> 00:50:03,120
13 separate vocations talking about the

1240
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:05,070
UFO interacting with the environment and

1241
00:50:09,230 --> 00:50:08,730
now now we find out some 50 years too

1242
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:09,240
late

1243
00:50:12,830 --> 00:50:11,130
that there was a landing trace involved

1244
00:50:14,150 --> 00:50:12,840
in Roswell that the sheriff was involved

1245
00:50:15,740 --> 00:50:14,160
in and he never said anything did the

1246
00:50:17,660 --> 00:50:15,750
Air Force ask him not to talk about it

1247
00:50:18,890 --> 00:50:17,670
and I mean where we would have had a

1248
00:50:20,450 --> 00:50:18,900
landing trace we would have had

1249
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:20,460
electromagnetic effects and we've got

1250
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:22,410
we've got multiple witnesses at multiple

1251
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:24,570
locations I mean talk about a stunning

1252
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:26,730
case and what happened the Air Force

1253
00:50:31,310 --> 00:50:28,770
argued with NICAP for the civilian

1254
00:50:32,570 --> 00:50:31,320
organization about whether or not who

1255
00:50:35,540 --> 00:50:32,580
was telling the truth about the number

1256
00:50:37,430 --> 00:50:35,550
of witnesses Kehoe Don Quijote NICAP

1257
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:37,440
said there were nine witness the Air

1258
00:50:41,180 --> 00:50:39,090
Force said no Kehoe was lying there were

1259
00:50:42,830 --> 00:50:41,190
only three and you go through the

1260
00:50:45,110 --> 00:50:42,840
documentation in the project Bluebook

1261
00:50:47,900 --> 00:50:45,120
files you can find you can find 13

1262
00:50:49,460 --> 00:50:47,910
separate locations where people saw saw

1263
00:50:51,260 --> 00:50:49,470
this thing and and there were multiple

1264
00:50:53,930 --> 00:50:51,270
witnesses at some of the locations so

1265
00:50:55,790 --> 00:50:53,940
there's way more than 13 witnesses so

1266
00:50:57,110 --> 00:50:55,800
they were busy arguing about this when

1267
00:50:58,760 --> 00:50:57,120
they should have been arguing about the

1268
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:58,770
interaction of the UFO with the

1269
00:51:02,900 --> 00:51:00,720
environment and the landing traces and

1270
00:51:05,420 --> 00:51:02,910
all of that other stuff all the side

1271
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:05,430
issues kind of dominating here and you

1272
00:51:09,860 --> 00:51:07,170
don't get down to the core of the

1273
00:51:13,070 --> 00:51:09,870
mystery which which of course the Air

1274
00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:13,080
Force wanted it's good politics to kind

1275
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:14,760
of divert the discussion that's done in

1276
00:51:18,290 --> 00:51:16,170
Congress all the time that's why they

1277
00:51:20,420 --> 00:51:18,300
don't solve anything the book is called

1278
00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:20,430
alien mysteries conspiracies and

1279
00:51:24,890 --> 00:51:23,040
cover-ups we'll get into some things in

1280
00:51:28,250 --> 00:51:24,900
that book in a moment we have Kevin

1281
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:28,260
Randle joining gene and Chris once again

1282
00:51:38,319 --> 00:51:31,090
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1301
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welcome back to to the para cast the

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1333
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now here's Jane Steinberg with Jean and

1334
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:14,380
Chris in the para cast we have Kevin Dee

1335
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:18,640
Randall very extremely prolific offer a

1336
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very extremely prolific author because

1337
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he's written over a hundred books second

1338
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only to Brad Steiger more books than

1339
00:54:30,570 --> 00:54:28,720
Isaac Asimov no I think no no I was

1340
00:54:32,580 --> 00:54:30,580
talking about about people involved in

1341
00:54:35,130 --> 00:54:32,590
the UFO field Isaac Asimov got credit

1342
00:54:37,830 --> 00:54:35,140
for like 500 and there was some some

1343
00:54:39,900 --> 00:54:37,840
romance writer I think she did like 750

1344
00:54:44,340 --> 00:54:39,910
well of course Walter B Gibson wrote

1345
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:44,350
what 300 novels about the shadow well

1346
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:47,530
did he or did he have help I know Don

1347
00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:50,170
Pendleton who started the executioner

1348
00:54:55,890 --> 00:54:53,110
series for gold eagle book I actually

1349
00:54:58,530 --> 00:54:55,900
wrote gold eagle the executioner number

1350
00:55:00,510 --> 00:54:58,540
I think it's 114 and it was Don

1351
00:55:02,010 --> 00:55:00,520
Pendleton's executioner they bought it

1352
00:55:03,630 --> 00:55:02,020
out and Pendleton stopped writing it so

1353
00:55:05,580 --> 00:55:03,640
the question is did he write all those

1354
00:55:07,410 --> 00:55:05,590
books or did somebody else write them as

1355
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:07,420
him off with his 500 books a lot of them

1356
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:09,370
he was the editor on and gathered papers

1357
00:55:13,620 --> 00:55:10,690
and put things together and liked it

1358
00:55:17,910 --> 00:55:13,630
like that or short story collections so

1359
00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:17,920
I mean that's cheating well you know his

1360
00:55:22,500 --> 00:55:20,710
rules his game he can say I know I don't

1361
00:55:24,450 --> 00:55:22,510
think he ever said he wrote 500 books I

1362
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:24,460
think you know he had credit for 500

1363
00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:26,170
books something as a malefactor Senate I

1364
00:55:29,220 --> 00:55:27,520
think in the Guinness Book of World

1365
00:55:33,330 --> 00:55:29,230
Records is there was a woman who wrote

1366
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:33,340
700 romance novels you know a lot of

1367
00:55:37,350 --> 00:55:35,530
there I did was doing a series of books

1368
00:55:39,150 --> 00:55:37,360
called Vietnam Ground Zero and there

1369
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:39,160
were actually six that I didn't write so

1370
00:55:43,140 --> 00:55:41,650
I don't count those in my list of books

1371
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:43,150
that I wrote at least you're trying to

1372
00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:45,010
be intellectually honest about okay

1373
00:55:50,460 --> 00:55:47,200
let's go back to one more thing here

1374
00:55:54,390 --> 00:55:50,470
with regard to Roswell do you have a

1375
00:55:55,980 --> 00:55:54,400
timeframe as to when you think there's

1376
00:55:58,730 --> 00:55:55,990
gonna be a report from the stream team

1377
00:56:00,960 --> 00:55:58,740
or is that still kind of up in the air

1378
00:56:04,470 --> 00:56:00,970
there's been a couple of diversions that

1379
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:04,480
we've had to deal with and personal

1380
00:56:08,700 --> 00:56:07,210
personal problems that have arisen with

1381
00:56:11,370 --> 00:56:08,710
with some of the team

1382
00:56:12,690 --> 00:56:11,380
that they had had they've had to deal

1383
00:56:14,609 --> 00:56:12,700
with I mean deaths in the family and

1384
00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:14,619
things like that which is inhibited the

1385
00:56:18,660 --> 00:56:16,240
other thing is some of the

1386
00:56:20,940 --> 00:56:18,670
investigations were dealing with people

1387
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:20,950
who are not as enthusiastic as we are

1388
00:56:26,550 --> 00:56:24,010
so we're delayed by them one of the

1389
00:56:29,450 --> 00:56:26,560
things we've been doing is in the first

1390
00:56:32,550 --> 00:56:29,460
book we talked about these nuns in

1391
00:56:35,130 --> 00:56:32,560
Roswell who'd seen the object in the air

1392
00:56:37,290 --> 00:56:35,140
and I was of the opinion that Don had

1393
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:37,300
actually seen the diary entry and it

1394
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:38,890
turned out he had and what the

1395
00:56:43,710 --> 00:56:41,650
information came from a guy named Bill

1396
00:56:46,260 --> 00:56:43,720
English we kind of accepted it cuz bill

1397
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:46,270
really should then it was a old Special

1398
00:56:50,370 --> 00:56:47,770
Forces captain he'd been in the Army

1399
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:50,380
Green Berets so we found him to be

1400
00:56:55,380 --> 00:56:53,290
reliable we've since found out that Bill

1401
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:55,390
English was not a Special Forces officer

1402
00:57:00,630 --> 00:56:57,490
he spent very little time in the

1403
00:57:02,430 --> 00:57:00,640
military and he was a PFC so the

1404
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:02,440
credibility slipped but we had talked to

1405
00:57:07,260 --> 00:57:04,930
the he sent us to a nun in Lhasa and we

1406
00:57:08,849 --> 00:57:07,270
talked to her and she told us where the

1407
00:57:12,180 --> 00:57:08,859
Diaries were well we spent two years

1408
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:12,190
tracing the Diaries and what we finally

1409
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:13,450
found is you know they were move from

1410
00:57:17,579 --> 00:57:15,520
Basel to a repository in Oklahoma and

1411
00:57:20,460 --> 00:57:17,589
they ended up in a another repository in

1412
00:57:22,859 --> 00:57:20,470
Wisconsin but the diaries that they have

1413
00:57:24,599 --> 00:57:22,869
there only go back to 1960 so now we're

1414
00:57:27,089 --> 00:57:24,609
trying to find out where the earlier

1415
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:27,099
Diaries are so I mean and we've got to

1416
00:57:31,290 --> 00:57:29,770
deal with the Catholic Church on this

1417
00:57:33,420 --> 00:57:31,300
and they're they're trying to protect

1418
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:33,430
their nuns and their Diaries and make

1419
00:57:38,070 --> 00:57:36,010
sure that everything is done properly so

1420
00:57:39,930 --> 00:57:38,080
nobody is embarrassed by anything and

1421
00:57:43,109 --> 00:57:39,940
and so it's just become a real Bugaboo

1422
00:57:45,900 --> 00:57:43,119
so we have to we have to grade on that

1423
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:45,910
on the Ramey memo for example well one

1424
00:57:48,870 --> 00:57:47,290
of the things we've done is we found a

1425
00:57:51,420 --> 00:57:48,880
couple of people who are very involved

1426
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:51,430
in studying the photographs but they

1427
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:53,650
know nothing about the background of it

1428
00:57:56,130 --> 00:57:54,970
they just given the photograph this is

1429
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:56,140
what can you you know they're just the

1430
00:57:59,940 --> 00:57:58,000
rim the memo part and what can you read

1431
00:58:01,800 --> 00:57:59,950
there and so we've got to wait for them

1432
00:58:04,380 --> 00:58:01,810
to have an opportunity because they're

1433
00:58:06,570 --> 00:58:04,390
they're doing it out of the kindness of

1434
00:58:08,250 --> 00:58:06,580
their hearts to help us out so we have

1435
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:08,260
to wait for them to to get their work

1436
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:10,810
done and it's a long involved process so

1437
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:13,330
we're gathering information we're trying

1438
00:58:21,150 --> 00:58:16,810
to we're going back and listening to all

1439
00:58:22,140 --> 00:58:21,160
the taped interviews that we have of the

1440
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:22,150
witnesses

1441
00:58:25,410 --> 00:58:23,770
so that we can see exactly what they

1442
00:58:28,260 --> 00:58:25,420
said originally and compare it with what

1443
00:58:32,099 --> 00:58:28,270
has been published in in the past we

1444
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:32,109
found I found that we we have J bond

1445
00:58:34,980 --> 00:58:33,520
Johnson who was the guy that took the

1446
00:58:36,839 --> 00:58:34,990
photographs was always accusing me of

1447
00:58:39,150 --> 00:58:36,849
misquoting quoting him I actually found

1448
00:58:40,230 --> 00:58:39,160
found a place and one of the one of the

1449
00:58:43,260 --> 00:58:40,240
taped interviews with him where I

1450
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:43,270
actually left out a word in in

1451
00:58:47,970 --> 00:58:45,730
transcribing the tape so he was right I

1452
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:47,980
miss Cory damn I left a word out I think

1453
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:50,170
it was an and you know what you just

1454
00:58:53,250 --> 00:58:51,730
can't get away with doing that but then

1455
00:58:55,170 --> 00:58:53,260
we'll do an update in the near future

1456
00:58:56,609 --> 00:58:55,180
and see where you going with this let's

1457
00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:56,619
go to the book because there was a bunch

1458
00:59:00,690 --> 00:58:58,720
of things there and we are getting near

1459
00:59:02,250 --> 00:59:00,700
the halfway point on the show we haven't

1460
00:59:05,130 --> 00:59:02,260
really covered the book to any extent

1461
00:59:07,710 --> 00:59:05,140
now I was reading a section that you did

1462
00:59:09,390 --> 00:59:07,720
about so-called ancient astronauts and

1463
00:59:13,349 --> 00:59:09,400
artifacts recovered that may indicate

1464
00:59:15,269 --> 00:59:13,359
supposed advanced technology and I came

1465
00:59:15,990 --> 00:59:15,279
away with the impression that you just

1466
00:59:18,450 --> 00:59:16,000
don't buy it

1467
00:59:20,309 --> 00:59:18,460
I wanted that information that has come

1468
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:20,319
out if you go back to the original

1469
00:59:26,940 --> 00:59:24,490
sources of it you find that the way it's

1470
00:59:29,730 --> 00:59:26,950
been translated you might say into the

1471
00:59:31,549 --> 00:59:29,740
modern UFO world doesn't really fit the

1472
00:59:34,910 --> 00:59:31,559
best example I can think of is this

1473
00:59:38,069 --> 00:59:34,920
story that appeared in the 1852

1474
00:59:40,049 --> 00:59:38,079
Scientific American it was about a metal

1475
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:40,059
vessel and I've always thought it's a

1476
00:59:42,809 --> 00:59:41,410
great people for some reason but I've

1477
00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:42,819
actually seen a picture of expense and

1478
00:59:52,109 --> 00:59:48,569
it's more like a bell a fancy inlaid

1479
00:59:55,130 --> 00:59:52,119
bowl-like object that was supposedly

1480
00:59:58,859 --> 00:59:55,140
blown out of granite in a quarry in

1481
01:00:00,480 --> 00:59:58,869
Massachusetts in the 1850s you you read

1482
01:00:01,799 --> 01:00:00,490
a lot of the UFO books and they talk

1483
01:00:04,410 --> 01:00:01,809
about this thing and who was who was

1484
01:00:05,940 --> 01:00:04,420
making these things back long enough ago

1485
01:00:07,589 --> 01:00:05,950
that it could get mixed in with the

1486
01:00:09,450 --> 01:00:07,599
material that eventually became granite

1487
01:00:11,819 --> 01:00:09,460
you know I mean it's millions of years

1488
01:00:13,230 --> 01:00:11,829
old yeah well you go back and you read

1489
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:13,240
the story you find out well it's not

1490
01:00:16,890 --> 01:00:15,130
quite what they said and it could have

1491
01:00:18,660 --> 01:00:16,900
been associated with material on top of

1492
01:00:20,670 --> 01:00:18,670
the granite that was collapsed when they

1493
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:20,680
when the explosion took place I mean but

1494
01:00:26,010 --> 01:00:23,410
they were trying to they were carving or

1495
01:00:28,049 --> 01:00:26,020
whether they were mining the granite or

1496
01:00:29,339 --> 01:00:28,059
milling the granite or whatever so it

1497
01:00:30,870 --> 01:00:29,349
may not have actually been in the

1498
01:00:33,089 --> 01:00:30,880
granite but associated with material on

1499
01:00:35,789 --> 01:00:33,099
top of meaning on the ground but what I

1500
01:00:36,420 --> 01:00:35,799
found interesting about that was in the

1501
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:36,430
scientific

1502
01:00:41,070 --> 01:00:38,410
American they talked about this might

1503
01:00:43,650 --> 01:00:41,080
have been something made by a fellow

1504
01:00:46,380 --> 01:00:43,660
named two became and I knew nothing

1505
01:00:49,260 --> 01:00:46,390
about two became and I got looking at

1506
01:00:50,850 --> 01:00:49,270
that the Scientific American cuz the

1507
01:00:53,070 --> 01:00:50,860
bound periodicals were at the University

1508
01:00:54,930 --> 01:00:53,080
of Iowa library and you also have

1509
01:00:56,220 --> 01:00:54,940
researched them online and you look at

1510
01:00:58,980 --> 01:00:56,230
that and there's this little thing off

1511
01:01:00,870 --> 01:00:58,990
to the side and looks you know like a

1512
01:01:02,970 --> 01:01:00,880
mark on the page and you look at it

1513
01:01:05,490 --> 01:01:02,980
carefully and it turns out it's an L and

1514
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:05,500
it's tubal-cain and then we discover the

1515
01:01:11,190 --> 01:01:09,490
tubal-cain is a Masonic symbol or a

1516
01:01:14,310 --> 01:01:11,200
Masonic reference and so you're

1517
01:01:17,180 --> 01:01:14,320
wondering well was this story put in the

1518
01:01:21,450 --> 01:01:17,190
Scientific American some kind of a

1519
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:21,460
message to other masons of the time and

1520
01:01:27,210 --> 01:01:23,770
so you know you get diverted into these

1521
01:01:31,770 --> 01:01:27,220
other things so the real point is the

1522
01:01:33,300 --> 01:01:31,780
mystery of this this device this thing

1523
01:01:34,890 --> 01:01:33,310
that was made may not have been as

1524
01:01:36,420 --> 01:01:34,900
ancient as it was but it takes us off

1525
01:01:38,220 --> 01:01:36,430
into a different direction that is also

1526
01:01:39,930 --> 01:01:38,230
kind of interesting but really has

1527
01:01:42,180 --> 01:01:39,940
nothing to do with really ancient

1528
01:01:44,190 --> 01:01:42,190
civilizations or alien visitations it

1529
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:44,200
takes us in a different direction the

1530
01:01:47,130 --> 01:01:45,970
Baghdad batteries and I wanted to do

1531
01:01:49,650 --> 01:01:47,140
something on that because they've been

1532
01:01:51,150 --> 01:01:49,660
to Baghdad and I'd been dough to Babylon

1533
01:01:52,500 --> 01:01:51,160
where they supposedly were uncovered and

1534
01:01:54,510 --> 01:01:52,510
I thought well I think I can actually

1535
01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:54,520
put pictures of Babylon that I took in

1536
01:02:01,380 --> 01:01:58,330
the book but these are hearth and wear

1537
01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:01,390
jars with metal rods and electrolyte you

1538
01:02:05,790 --> 01:02:03,520
know like citric acid in them to

1539
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:05,800
generate an electrical current people

1540
01:02:10,710 --> 01:02:07,930
talked about that for years nothing to

1541
01:02:13,710 --> 01:02:10,720
suggest an alien technology clearly

1542
01:02:16,260 --> 01:02:13,720
these things exist clearly they're at

1543
01:02:17,220 --> 01:02:16,270
least 1,500 years old maybe 2,000 years

1544
01:02:19,710 --> 01:02:17,230
old you think well what would the

1545
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:19,720
ancient Babylonians doing with batteries

1546
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:22,690
that created a very low level of current

1547
01:02:26,970 --> 01:02:25,330
and so there's you know that's kind of

1548
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:26,980
an interesting development but it really

1549
01:02:30,150 --> 01:02:28,330
doesn't lead us to the extra-terrestrial

1550
01:02:31,980 --> 01:02:30,160
or anything like that it's kind of

1551
01:02:33,210 --> 01:02:31,990
interesting so when when you look at

1552
01:02:34,620 --> 01:02:33,220
when you go back and you look at the

1553
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:34,630
ancient sources when you look at the

1554
01:02:38,730 --> 01:02:36,370
original sources for some of this stuff

1555
01:02:40,380 --> 01:02:38,740
it just doesn't it's not quite as

1556
01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:40,390
mysterious as it's been made out to be

1557
01:02:43,530 --> 01:02:42,310
by some of the writers and that was one

1558
01:02:45,930 --> 01:02:43,540
of the things I wanted to do with the

1559
01:02:49,260 --> 01:02:45,940
book is take a look at the whole range

1560
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:49,270
of history of UFOs from the really

1561
01:02:53,650 --> 01:02:50,210
really ancient

1562
01:02:55,829 --> 01:02:53,660
to the modern modern times and and and

1563
01:02:58,900 --> 01:02:55,839
see what I could learn about it and

1564
01:03:01,630 --> 01:02:58,910
provide the best evidence I could find

1565
01:03:02,980 --> 01:03:01,640
about some of these things all right

1566
01:03:07,359 --> 01:03:02,990
let's look at this further as we

1567
01:03:11,310 --> 01:03:07,369
progress so the suggestion I see in the

1568
01:03:13,900 --> 01:03:11,320
book is that the popular writers who

1569
01:03:17,339 --> 01:03:13,910
introduce these concepts the Baghdad

1570
01:03:20,980 --> 01:03:17,349
batteries all these out of place things

1571
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:20,990
that maybe they exaggerated a little bit

1572
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:24,410
or made a few interpretations that were

1573
01:03:28,540 --> 01:03:26,930
not kosher and that's why they came up

1574
01:03:30,070 --> 01:03:28,550
with these theories you'll get an answer

1575
01:03:33,490 --> 01:03:30,080
and there were time for an answer in a

1576
01:03:35,290 --> 01:03:33,500
moment Kevin D Randall is our guest his

1577
01:03:37,660 --> 01:03:35,300
latest book among many is alien

1578
01:03:41,349 --> 01:03:37,670
mysteries conspiracies and cover-ups and

1579
01:03:48,450 --> 01:03:41,359
we're going dark and deep and what he

1580
01:03:53,109 --> 01:03:51,130
attack of the rock ODEs has been well

1581
01:03:54,910 --> 01:03:53,119
received by critics and readers alike

1582
01:03:57,460 --> 01:03:54,920
it's a thrill a minute story you'll

1583
01:03:59,800 --> 01:03:57,470
never forget a former US military

1584
01:04:02,079 --> 01:03:59,810
intelligence officer is haunted by

1585
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:02,089
intense dreams about a beautiful woman

1586
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:04,730
pleading for his help after a terrible

1587
01:04:09,609 --> 01:04:07,490
battle in outer space but the dreams

1588
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:09,619
turn out to be true and thrust him into

1589
01:04:14,260 --> 01:04:11,570
a telepathic love affair with a woman

1590
01:04:16,630 --> 01:04:14,270
whose faraway planet is intent on

1591
01:04:19,450 --> 01:04:16,640
destroying the earth and now the

1592
01:04:21,910 --> 01:04:19,460
gripping tale continues in the coming of

1593
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:21,920
the protectors it's the second book of

1594
01:04:26,710 --> 01:04:24,530
the raccoons trilogy a galaxy spanning

1595
01:04:29,770 --> 01:04:26,720
adventure that pits our hapless heroes

1596
01:04:31,570 --> 01:04:29,780
against powerful fanatical enemies that

1597
01:04:34,270 --> 01:04:31,580
threaten the lives of freedom loving

1598
01:04:37,020 --> 01:04:34,280
beings everywhere attack of the rock

1599
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:37,030
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1600
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:39,770
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1601
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1602
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focusing about those out of place things

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Oh Oh P th a--'s don't ask me to try to

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say that any other way

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what there you go you see how well I did

1682
01:08:35,209 --> 01:08:33,029
that ladies and gentlemen okay

1683
01:08:37,490 --> 01:08:35,219
so we're seeing here is that something

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01:08:39,349 --> 01:08:37,500
that might be unusual but not

1685
01:08:42,140 --> 01:08:39,359
necessarily evidence of an advanced

1686
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:42,150
technology but changing a few words here

1687
01:08:46,309 --> 01:08:43,650
and there a few descriptions and

1688
01:08:49,340 --> 01:08:46,319
suddenly they become really anomalous is

1689
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:49,350
that deliberate I think in most cases

1690
01:08:54,169 --> 01:08:51,810
it's not I think that the the writers

1691
01:08:55,340 --> 01:08:54,179
the other writers when they've looked at

1692
01:08:57,709 --> 01:08:55,350
these things have been a little bit more

1693
01:08:59,899 --> 01:08:57,719
enthusiastic about their conclusions

1694
01:09:02,740 --> 01:08:59,909
than they need to be yeah it's really a

1695
01:09:05,539 --> 01:09:02,750
matter of interpretation and I tried to

1696
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:05,549
attack it from a more neutral point of

1697
01:09:09,740 --> 01:09:07,650
view well here's what it says you know

1698
01:09:11,329 --> 01:09:09,750
what what does this actually mean and

1699
01:09:12,769 --> 01:09:11,339
take it in that direction there were

1700
01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:12,779
some things there are some things that

1701
01:09:18,829 --> 01:09:16,409
really are inexplicable and we don't

1702
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:18,839
really understand how they came to be

1703
01:09:24,019 --> 01:09:21,449
where they were found these nails that

1704
01:09:24,740 --> 01:09:24,029
really were associated with granite that

1705
01:09:27,860 --> 01:09:24,750
that

1706
01:09:29,480 --> 01:09:27,870
two have been dropped at the time the

1707
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:29,490
granite was being formed millions of

1708
01:09:34,940 --> 01:09:31,130
years ago so there are there a couple of

1709
01:09:37,130 --> 01:09:34,950
real anomalies there but a lot of times

1710
01:09:38,870 --> 01:09:37,140
I think it's the enthusiasm of the

1711
01:09:42,499 --> 01:09:38,880
writer taking him in a direction and

1712
01:09:44,420 --> 01:09:42,509
yeah back in my younger days I probably

1713
01:09:45,740 --> 01:09:44,430
was this enthusiastic and some of these

1714
01:09:47,450 --> 01:09:45,750
things and didn't research them as

1715
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:47,460
carefully as they could be the other

1716
01:09:51,050 --> 01:09:49,170
problem is if one guy makes a mistake

1717
01:09:52,820 --> 01:09:51,060
and the next guy comes along and he

1718
01:09:54,260 --> 01:09:52,830
reads the first guy stuff he's going to

1719
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:54,270
make the same mistake and I found a

1720
01:09:59,840 --> 01:09:57,210
couple places where if you go back to

1721
01:10:02,240 --> 01:09:59,850
the original source it's not quite the

1722
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:02,250
way it has been turpitude throughout

1723
01:10:06,860 --> 01:10:04,650
throughout the years what I and this was

1724
01:10:09,350 --> 01:10:06,870
really isn't appropriate in this book

1725
01:10:12,890 --> 01:10:09,360
but that I was doing some research in a

1726
01:10:14,870 --> 01:10:12,900
book and it was about vanishings people

1727
01:10:16,430 --> 01:10:14,880
who just disappeared and one of them was

1728
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:16,440
this Oliver Thomas guy who disappeared

1729
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:19,290
in Wales and in ate in 1909 I think it

1730
01:10:23,060 --> 01:10:21,090
was and it was in one of the books that

1731
01:10:24,070 --> 01:10:23,070
Brad Steiger had done and I said well I

1732
01:10:26,690 --> 01:10:24,080
know Brad stager

1733
01:10:27,950 --> 01:10:26,700
actually I knew it is I I knew how to

1734
01:10:30,890 --> 01:10:27,960
get in touch with him so I called him

1735
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:30,900
croc I said Brad been looking into this

1736
01:10:36,260 --> 01:10:32,610
Oliver Thompson thing oh that's a hoax

1737
01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:36,270
and Brad said that he said what he does

1738
01:10:40,700 --> 01:10:38,880
and it's a wonderful way to be but it's

1739
01:10:42,230 --> 01:10:40,710
really not a good great investigative

1740
01:10:43,820 --> 01:10:42,240
technique because he just tends to

1741
01:10:46,220 --> 01:10:43,830
believe what people tell him until he

1742
01:10:47,750 --> 01:10:46,230
finds out differently and so he looked

1743
01:10:50,270 --> 01:10:47,760
for the he looks for the mistakes he

1744
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:50,280
looks for that but he reports honestly

1745
01:10:53,540 --> 01:10:52,170
what he's been told if he finds out

1746
01:10:54,830 --> 01:10:53,550
later that it's wrong we'll make sure

1747
01:10:56,210 --> 01:10:54,840
that you know that that was one of the

1748
01:10:58,670 --> 01:10:56,220
things he did this Oliver Thomas thing

1749
01:11:00,980 --> 01:10:58,680
he he thought it was a good story but

1750
01:11:02,870 --> 01:11:00,990
when I called and asked ambassador hunks

1751
01:11:04,580 --> 01:11:02,880
didn't try to alibi didn't try to cover

1752
01:11:06,530 --> 01:11:04,590
up told me he told me honestly what it

1753
01:11:09,410 --> 01:11:06,540
was so what I tried to do is go back to

1754
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:09,420
the original sources looking at all of

1755
01:11:14,210 --> 01:11:12,570
these things and and seeing how they've

1756
01:11:16,490 --> 01:11:14,220
they've been brought to the modern world

1757
01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:16,500
the disappearance of Oliver Thomas

1758
01:11:22,580 --> 01:11:21,120
Oliver large in Ohio I want to say

1759
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:22,590
Cincinnati but that doesn't sound right

1760
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:25,170
anyhow he disappeared in it and it was

1761
01:11:30,590 --> 01:11:27,690
in a book by Moore's Kate Jessup and he

1762
01:11:32,480 --> 01:11:30,600
said it's all written down in the files

1763
01:11:33,710 --> 01:11:32,490
of the police department for all to see

1764
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:33,720
you know here's evidence the guy

1765
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:36,090
disappeared in 1881 you can look it up

1766
01:11:38,689 --> 01:11:37,770
in the police files in the police record

1767
01:11:41,870 --> 01:11:38,699
so I called I

1768
01:11:43,459 --> 01:11:41,880
100 a year to police and they said our

1769
01:11:47,029 --> 01:11:43,469
records don't go back that far whether

1770
01:11:48,919 --> 01:11:47,039
they were destroyed 1924 in a fire so it

1771
01:11:51,169 --> 01:11:48,929
wasn't there for everybody look up at

1772
01:11:54,020 --> 01:11:51,179
the police files it was just a statement

1773
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:54,030
that Jessup made in his book which I

1774
01:11:58,669 --> 01:11:56,489
believe he believed to be the truth

1775
01:12:01,250 --> 01:11:58,679
it just wasn't well maybe he relied on

1776
01:12:05,029 --> 01:12:01,260
someone else's report so it's like yeah

1777
01:12:06,979 --> 01:12:05,039
a reports be picks up a modifies it in

1778
01:12:09,049 --> 01:12:06,989
their own words and suddenly C and D

1779
01:12:11,870 --> 01:12:09,059
pick it up and the story becomes farther

1780
01:12:14,449 --> 01:12:11,880
and farther removed from the original so

1781
01:12:16,009 --> 01:12:14,459
you need to get back to the point of my

1782
01:12:18,169 --> 01:12:16,019
book was to get back to the original

1783
01:12:19,250 --> 01:12:18,179
sources you know and in fact in the

1784
01:12:21,109 --> 01:12:19,260
government seek when the government was

1785
01:12:22,430 --> 01:12:21,119
files I had I just came across another

1786
01:12:26,209 --> 01:12:22,440
one where they were talking I was

1787
01:12:28,219 --> 01:12:26,219
talking about pre Arnold 1947 UFO

1788
01:12:30,529 --> 01:12:28,229
sightings Kenneth Arnold sightings huh

1789
01:12:33,140 --> 01:12:30,539
and they said one of the best ones was

1790
01:12:36,259 --> 01:12:33,150
from July from June 23rd the day before

1791
01:12:37,430 --> 01:12:36,269
Arnold in the Cedar Rapids newspaper and

1792
01:12:39,890 --> 01:12:37,440
I thought well I wasn't Cedar Rapids

1793
01:12:43,100 --> 01:12:39,900
I'll go look it up see what see what it

1794
01:12:46,009 --> 01:12:43,110
says well so we have this June 23rd

1795
01:12:47,779 --> 01:12:46,019
sighting from from 1947 I was supposedly

1796
01:12:50,089 --> 01:12:47,789
documented in the newspaper a dick Hall

1797
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:50,099
talks about it in the UFO evidences this

1798
01:12:52,939 --> 01:12:51,449
is an important finding because it

1799
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:52,949
talked about this shaped objects prior

1800
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:56,010
to horrible and so I'm thinking I'm

1801
01:12:59,689 --> 01:12:57,360
trying to trace it back and the earliest

1802
01:13:02,120 --> 01:12:59,699
reference I can find is from 1956 when

1803
01:13:03,620 --> 01:13:02,130
Frank Edward used it in his speech so I

1804
01:13:05,359 --> 01:13:03,630
figured I'm in Cedar Rapids I'll go down

1805
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:05,369
to the newspaper and look and I talked

1806
01:13:08,719 --> 01:13:07,650
to the newspaper at the library and I

1807
01:13:10,910 --> 01:13:08,729
talked to him and found out there were

1808
01:13:12,469 --> 01:13:10,920
two newspapers in Cedar Rapids at the

1809
01:13:14,540 --> 01:13:12,479
time one was a weekly and the other was

1810
01:13:17,149 --> 01:13:14,550
a daily and I went through the newspaper

1811
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:17,159
twice for June 23rd there was nothing

1812
01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:18,570
there I went through the other one it

1813
01:13:22,939 --> 01:13:20,400
didn't have an issue on June 23rd it had

1814
01:13:24,890 --> 01:13:22,949
not June 1 I'm June 19th and one

1815
01:13:27,469 --> 01:13:24,900
something I think the 24th was the next

1816
01:13:29,839 --> 01:13:27,479
one that it had so that didn't help I

1817
01:13:32,029 --> 01:13:29,849
eventually found the sighting they were

1818
01:13:34,549 --> 01:13:32,039
referencing it actually took place in

1819
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:34,559
Joliet Illinois it was not published

1820
01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:37,050
until June 28th I think in the Cedar

1821
01:13:40,699 --> 01:13:39,209
Rapids Gazette but all the other facts

1822
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:40,709
fit I mean it was a railroad engineer

1823
01:13:45,500 --> 01:13:42,690
and he saw them 10 objects and all that

1824
01:13:46,910 --> 01:13:45,510
but it wasn't June 23rd it was it was

1825
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:46,920
something that Frank Edwards said I

1826
01:13:51,290 --> 01:13:49,050
don't know why he said it was published

1827
01:13:52,709 --> 01:13:51,300
in the newspaper on June 23rd other than

1828
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:52,719
the railroad engineers

1829
01:13:56,939 --> 01:13:55,210
seeing this thing on the same afternoon

1830
01:13:59,969 --> 01:13:56,949
that Arnold was seeing it which would be

1831
01:14:02,069 --> 01:13:59,979
the 24 so even that was wrong but others

1832
01:14:04,649 --> 01:14:02,079
had picked up what Edwards had said in

1833
01:14:06,359 --> 01:14:04,659
the speech and continued to publish that

1834
01:14:08,759 --> 01:14:06,369
date as if it was accurate I was

1835
01:14:11,069 --> 01:14:08,769
eventually able to trace the story down

1836
01:14:13,859 --> 01:14:11,079
and find out that it was not published

1837
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:13,869
until after Arnold so it really didn't

1838
01:14:17,729 --> 01:14:16,090
fit what I was looking for well I always

1839
01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:17,739
wondered whether Frank Edwards and he

1840
01:14:21,209 --> 01:14:19,360
was a really nice guy I met him a couple

1841
01:14:23,279 --> 01:14:21,219
of times was the most meticulous

1842
01:14:25,489 --> 01:14:23,289
research for in the planet lets us move

1843
01:14:28,259 --> 01:14:25,499
on has a lot of ground to cover here

1844
01:14:29,910 --> 01:14:28,269
chapter one of your book this is of

1845
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:29,920
course one of the linchpin is of the

1846
01:14:35,899 --> 01:14:32,530
ancient astronauts theory that in the

1847
01:14:39,810 --> 01:14:35,909
Bible Ezekiel's wheels were really

1848
01:14:42,180 --> 01:14:39,820
spaceships that the gods of the Bible

1849
01:14:45,180 --> 01:14:42,190
were really aliens what's your take on

1850
01:14:48,719 --> 01:14:45,190
it if you take a look at Ezekiel story

1851
01:14:50,609 --> 01:14:48,729
it Ezekiel being a prophet that had been

1852
01:14:52,890 --> 01:14:50,619
to Babylon is matter of fact another

1853
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:52,900
place to use my Babylon pictures and his

1854
01:14:58,680 --> 01:14:56,650
story seems to be actually from ancient

1855
01:15:00,540 --> 01:14:58,690
Egypt and talks about something like

1856
01:15:02,819 --> 01:15:00,550
that and again you go to the various

1857
01:15:05,910 --> 01:15:02,829
sources and you find that the colors

1858
01:15:07,919 --> 01:15:05,920
that they zekiel described yeah I mean

1859
01:15:09,660 --> 01:15:07,929
it's almost every color under the under

1860
01:15:12,299 --> 01:15:09,670
the Sun is available there the

1861
01:15:14,939 --> 01:15:12,309
descriptions vary from from place to

1862
01:15:18,930 --> 01:15:14,949
place I think this is really a question

1863
01:15:21,029 --> 01:15:18,940
of the translations somebody translates

1864
01:15:23,069 --> 01:15:21,039
the original into another language which

1865
01:15:25,140 --> 01:15:23,079
is translated into a still another

1866
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language and eventually you get the

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interpretations of the translators in

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there as opposed to what was actually

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originally said Rockville International

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did an experiment a number of years ago

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where they translated something into

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Russian and then had another translator

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translated back into English and the one

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that stuck in my mind is hydraulic rams

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which was in the original report was

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translated back into english as water

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lambs not exactly the same thing and so

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I'm thinking that when you're looking at

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some of these ancient writings what you

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end up with is a translation of a

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guy who's doing the translation and so

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long and short of it is that however

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unless you go back to the original

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hello this is rosemary ellen guiley and

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you're listening to the podcast the gold

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standard a paranormal radio with Gina

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and Chris and the para cast we have

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01:21:15,379 --> 01:21:13,679
Kevin Dee Randall I was thinking Kevin

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01:21:17,030 --> 01:21:15,389
do you haven't done it yet maybe you

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01:21:19,819 --> 01:21:17,040
will ask you we some of us have guests

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use that closing stinger the power cast

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and of course Nick Redfern may not have

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written as many books as you have Kevin

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Randall but he does that very well and

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we're thinking maybe we'll have the best

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of the power cast and people will listen

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to it and it'll almost be like that

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Beatles thing revolution number nine

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someone will be saying instead of number

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nine number nine the para cast the para

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cast for twelve minutes flat do you

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think people will buy that Kevin people

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are today probably it would be a

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best-seller yes there you go Chris we

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didn't have many days to warn our

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01:22:00,919 --> 01:21:58,829
listeners about the presses of Kevin

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01:22:02,780 --> 01:22:00,929
Randle in the para cast but we had a few

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01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:02,790
questions and discussions in our forums

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01:22:06,589 --> 01:22:04,650
you want to start to read a few but

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01:22:09,919 --> 01:22:06,599
certainly the first one comes from a

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01:22:10,810 --> 01:22:09,929
former moderator here at forum dr. Peric

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01:22:14,990 --> 01:22:10,820
ask.com

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01:22:17,660 --> 01:22:15,000
name is angelo and being the pot stirrer

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01:22:20,030 --> 01:22:17,670
and kind of guy he is he likes to I

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01:22:23,300 --> 01:22:20,040
think he likes to tweet me a little bit

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01:22:24,979 --> 01:22:23,310
on on occasion as well he wonders Kevin

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01:22:26,959 --> 01:22:24,989
why do you think there are still some

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01:22:29,810 --> 01:22:26,969
people that think that cattle

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01:22:31,189 --> 01:22:29,820
mutilations are anomalous in nature when

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according to scientists and

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01:22:35,450 --> 01:22:33,000
veterinarians the evidence points to

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01:22:37,669 --> 01:22:35,460
scavengers and predators is there too

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01:22:39,950 --> 01:22:37,679
much of a hope that something paranormal

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01:22:42,709 --> 01:22:39,960
is happening which blinds people to the

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01:22:45,410 --> 01:22:42,719
truth is this what is happening with

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01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:45,420
most UFO cases wow that's just a really

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01:22:50,990 --> 01:22:46,770
loaded question isn't it

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01:22:54,890 --> 01:22:51,000
yeah hands Angelo's full of them believe

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01:22:58,250 --> 01:22:54,900
me I think that if you want to know why

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01:22:59,870 --> 01:22:58,260
someone accepts something anomalous that

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01:23:02,359 --> 01:22:59,880
you should ask that person and not ask

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01:23:05,689 --> 01:23:02,369
me what I think their opinions might

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I personally in my investigations of the

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01:23:09,350 --> 01:23:07,499
cattle mutilations and I was one of the

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01:23:12,139 --> 01:23:09,360
first that was involved in that thanks

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01:23:14,389 --> 01:23:12,149
to Jim Lorenzen I never came across one

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01:23:18,649 --> 01:23:14,399
that was anomalous that was not

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01:23:21,409 --> 01:23:18,659
explainable in the mundane so I you know

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01:23:24,979 --> 01:23:21,419
I base it on what my experience has been

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01:23:28,879 --> 01:23:24,989
and I periodically revisit that as I do

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01:23:32,419 --> 01:23:28,889
other things other areas of the UFO

2059
01:23:34,489 --> 01:23:32,429
field the subgenres of the UFO field to

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01:23:36,199 --> 01:23:34,499
see if there's new information new

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01:23:37,879 --> 01:23:36,209
evidence that I might have missed it

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01:23:39,859 --> 01:23:37,889
would would change my opinion you know

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look at the crop circles again look at

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the periodically look at the mj-12 stuff

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but I just can't see anything coming up

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01:23:48,830 --> 01:23:46,590
that's really unless somebody comes up

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with a document with a known provenance

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that talks about j12 that I'm just not

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01:23:55,009 --> 01:23:52,860
going to reverse my opinion on that

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cattle mutilations is one of the things

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that I periodically revisit and people

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01:24:01,129 --> 01:23:59,010
periodically send me questions is how do

2073
01:24:02,750 --> 01:24:01,139
you how do you explain this phenomenon

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01:24:04,310 --> 01:24:02,760
it would be with the internet today

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01:24:06,379 --> 01:24:04,320
sometimes I can actually come up with

2076
01:24:08,959 --> 01:24:06,389
some very interesting explanations on

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that stuff so on the cattle mutilations

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you know I revisit it periodically I

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look at it periodically to see if

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there's stuff that I might have missed

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01:24:17,779 --> 01:24:15,749
to learn a little bit more about it but

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01:24:21,979 --> 01:24:17,789
to this point I haven't found anything

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01:24:24,770 --> 01:24:21,989
that convinces me that the cattle

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01:24:26,689 --> 01:24:24,780
mutilations are extraterrestrial let me

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01:24:29,540 --> 01:24:26,699
let me say it very interesting maybe

2086
01:24:32,179 --> 01:24:29,550
other explanations involved in that yeah

2087
01:24:34,489 --> 01:24:32,189
I was gonna I was gonna ask you to

2088
01:24:36,859 --> 01:24:34,499
clarify that a little bit more you know

2089
01:24:39,319 --> 01:24:36,869
Kevin I I'm writing a book on this

2090
01:24:42,500 --> 01:24:39,329
particular mystery I've been researching

2091
01:24:44,119 --> 01:24:42,510
it for off and on for about 20 years and

2092
01:24:45,919 --> 01:24:44,129
as you know I do have quite an interest

2093
01:24:49,250 --> 01:24:45,929
in this subject and have investigated

2094
01:24:51,319 --> 01:24:49,260
around 200 cases how many cases as have

2095
01:24:52,839 --> 01:24:51,329
you actually gone out on you're right

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01:24:55,850 --> 01:24:52,849
there smack in an area that was

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01:24:59,000 --> 01:24:55,860
allegedly hit pretty hard in the 70s how

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01:25:00,889 --> 01:24:59,010
many actual cases where the rancher has

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01:25:03,589 --> 01:25:00,899
claimed that his cattle was killed in an

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01:25:06,589 --> 01:25:03,599
unnatural way or some unusual way how

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01:25:09,109 --> 01:25:06,599
many have we seen Oh probably of the

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01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:09,119
several dozen yeah okay and I've you

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01:25:11,899 --> 01:25:10,530
know I've talked to vets in the one bed

2104
01:25:13,669 --> 01:25:11,909
I always remember his name was Jeff

2105
01:25:15,379 --> 01:25:13,679
Davis he lived in Wisconsin and I'm

2106
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:15,389
thinking Jefferson Davis and Wisconsin

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01:25:18,370 --> 01:25:16,010
meadows makes

2108
01:25:19,180 --> 01:25:18,380
to me Jefferson Davis and Alabama that

2109
01:25:22,060 --> 01:25:19,190
makes sense to me

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01:25:23,649 --> 01:25:22,070
I talk to the vets I talked to the some

2111
01:25:25,810 --> 01:25:23,659
of the people at universities you know

2112
01:25:27,549 --> 01:25:25,820
I've read the Ken Rommel report which I

2113
01:25:30,370 --> 01:25:27,559
know you probably are not real thrilled

2114
01:25:32,049 --> 01:25:30,380
with well no actually you know I think

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01:25:34,569 --> 01:25:32,059
when my book comes out it's gonna rain

2116
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on some parades believe me I explained

2117
01:25:38,529 --> 01:25:36,260
to my listeners Chris what this is about

2118
01:25:40,870 --> 01:25:38,539
what this report is about I'm writing a

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01:25:44,290 --> 01:25:40,880
book called stock in the herd and one of

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01:25:48,209 --> 01:25:44,300
the main detractors of the mysterious

2121
01:25:49,990 --> 01:25:48,219
nature of this particular kind of

2122
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:50,000
mystery I guess for lack of a better

2123
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:54,250
term was an FBI agent who was hired by a

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01:26:02,020 --> 01:25:57,489
district attorney in New Mexico back in

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01:26:04,359 --> 01:26:02,030
1979 at the behest of former congressman

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01:26:06,669 --> 01:26:04,369
Harrison Schmitt oh and people the

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senator wasn't coming yeah Senate

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01:26:13,839 --> 01:26:10,670
to walk on the moon correct and he had

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been petitioned by ranchers because of a

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01:26:19,689 --> 01:26:15,769
whole wave of what the ranchers claimed

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01:26:23,470 --> 01:26:19,699
were unexplained and unnatural deaths of

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cattle in New Mexico this was in his 70s

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01:26:29,109 --> 01:26:27,079
late 70s going into early 80 some of

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01:26:31,270 --> 01:26:29,119
these cases were being investigated by

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01:26:34,390 --> 01:26:31,280
Gabe Alves in Mexico State patrolman who

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01:26:37,270 --> 01:26:34,400
died in 2011 who was in charge of the

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area up around the Dulce town of dulce

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01:26:43,689 --> 01:26:39,530
and Hickory Apache reservation so

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01:26:46,180 --> 01:26:43,699
Schmitt and Eli Martinez the district

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01:26:48,430 --> 01:26:46,190
attorney arranged to get a grant and a

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01:26:51,310 --> 01:26:48,440
former FBI agent named Kenneth Rommel

2143
01:26:54,490 --> 01:26:51,320
conducted operation cattle mutilation

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01:26:57,009 --> 01:26:54,500
which was one of the only officially

2145
01:26:59,049 --> 01:26:57,019
sanctioned government studies of this

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01:27:00,879 --> 01:26:59,059
particular phenomenon there's quite a

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01:27:03,819 --> 01:27:00,889
bit of evidence to suggest that he

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01:27:06,459 --> 01:27:03,829
wanted similar to you know the infamous

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01:27:09,700 --> 01:27:06,469
Condon report which came out about ten

2150
01:27:12,220 --> 01:27:09,710
years earlier looking at UFOs that he

2151
01:27:15,279 --> 01:27:12,230
went into this with his mind fairly well

2152
01:27:18,700 --> 01:27:15,289
made up he had a ghostwriter right most

2153
01:27:21,490 --> 01:27:18,710
of the copy of this report and it blamed

2154
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:21,500
the entire phenomenon or mysterious

2155
01:27:26,229 --> 01:27:23,690
nature of this on just misidentified

2156
01:27:28,089 --> 01:27:26,239
scavenger action and he went on to

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01:27:29,170 --> 01:27:28,099
personally attack many of the principles

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01:27:32,170 --> 01:27:29,180
involved

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01:27:35,110 --> 01:27:32,180
in investigating in Mexico cases now out

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01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:35,120
of the 80 I think some odd cases that

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01:27:39,430 --> 01:27:37,370
are cited in the book Rama himself never

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01:27:41,590 --> 01:27:39,440
had anything to do with any field

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01:27:44,500 --> 01:27:41,600
investigative work he did pick and

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01:27:47,440 --> 01:27:44,510
choose the veterinary pathology remarks

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01:27:50,050 --> 01:27:47,450
that he quoted in his his his report and

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01:27:51,970 --> 01:27:50,060
really did a good job character assassin

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01:27:54,340 --> 01:27:51,980
with character assassination on some of

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01:27:57,490 --> 01:27:54,350
the principles involved especially gave

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01:27:59,860 --> 01:27:57,500
Valdez and annex an be a scientist named

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01:28:01,810 --> 01:27:59,870
Howard Burgess so the Rommel report I

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01:28:04,540 --> 01:28:01,820
think has always been flawed I think

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01:28:07,330 --> 01:28:04,550
there's a high likelihood that the cases

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01:28:10,210 --> 01:28:07,340
that they were looking at were induced

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01:28:12,310 --> 01:28:10,220
by media you know sort of sensationalism

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01:28:15,790 --> 01:28:12,320
and I I do agree with you can't govern a

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01:28:19,060 --> 01:28:15,800
vast majority of these cases just like

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01:28:21,660 --> 01:28:19,070
in UFO sightings a majority of these

2178
01:28:24,910 --> 01:28:21,670
cases are misidentified scavenger action

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01:28:27,430 --> 01:28:24,920
unusual insect scavenging which most

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01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:27,440
people aren't aware of how very

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01:28:33,750 --> 01:28:29,810
efficient insects can be especially in

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dry areas of the cattle country and

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birds are very proficient at creating

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01:28:40,510 --> 01:28:38,050
what looked to be perfect perfect

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01:28:42,730 --> 01:28:40,520
incisions in the rear ends of animals

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01:28:43,540 --> 01:28:42,740
and whatnot if I can interrupt for just

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earth again

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01:28:49,210 --> 01:28:45,650
I remember seeing a photographs of

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01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:49,220
allegedly mutilated cow where they were

2190
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:50,330
talking about there were no footprints

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01:28:54,070 --> 01:28:52,370
around it and you're looking at the body

2192
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:54,080
and there's bird droppings all over it

2193
01:28:56,890 --> 01:28:55,370
you thinking well yeah there's no

2194
01:28:58,450 --> 01:28:56,900
there's no footprints cuz it was Birds

2195
01:29:01,180 --> 01:28:58,460
for crying out loud everything right

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01:29:04,210 --> 01:29:01,190
there on the carcass yeah and I agree

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01:29:09,490 --> 01:29:04,220
that this this this subject is filled

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01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:09,500
with with just people not knowing the

2199
01:29:15,610 --> 01:29:12,530
thing about veterinary pathology number

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01:29:18,250 --> 01:29:15,620
one and and when when a perhaps let's

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01:29:20,260 --> 01:29:18,260
say a real case does occur and the

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rancher you know Lynch's it to his

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01:29:24,610 --> 01:29:22,220
neighbors and in other ranches and the

2204
01:29:27,820 --> 01:29:24,620
word spreads like wildfire and maybe

2205
01:29:29,590 --> 01:29:27,830
another case occurs it may be unusual

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01:29:31,090 --> 01:29:29,600
scavenger action word of that gets

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01:29:33,250 --> 01:29:31,100
around what as soon as the newspaper

2208
01:29:37,150 --> 01:29:33,260
gets involved and starts fanning the

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01:29:40,060 --> 01:29:37,160
flames and oftentimes like in the

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seventies and Dorothy Eldridge and the

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01:29:46,810 --> 01:29:42,739
Gazette Telegraph articles very

2212
01:29:49,750 --> 01:29:46,820
sensationalized and in really done in in

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01:29:52,150 --> 01:29:49,760
a way to I think really sell papers more

2214
01:29:54,310 --> 01:29:52,160
than anything when this happens then any

2215
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:54,320
dead cattle lying out in the pasture

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01:29:58,600 --> 01:29:56,810
that's being scavenge is going to appear

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01:30:00,850 --> 01:29:58,610
to the amateur you know untrained

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01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:00,860
observer to be unusual looking and know

2219
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:02,330
they'll walk up to it and they'll notice

2220
01:30:05,410 --> 01:30:03,770
that there's no blood and they'll freak

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01:30:07,750 --> 01:30:05,420
out and say this animals been drained of

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01:30:09,970 --> 01:30:07,760
blood and then Linda how come along and

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01:30:12,630 --> 01:30:09,980
say that aliens are gathering genetic

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material for lip and ice to or some

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hybridization process or whatever as I'm

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sure you heard her drone on at the

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citizens hearing no I did not hear her

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[Music]

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this is a skirt 70 author us on this

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reading and listening to the podcast so

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from UFOs including Roswell to ancient

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astronauts and now to cattle mutilations

2336
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and Delinda how with gene and Chris we

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have Kevin Randle Kevin of courses

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answering your questions posted at forum

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dr. podcast comm in our question Bank

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and the first questions are about cow

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01:35:28,500 --> 01:35:25,270
mutilations which by the way is not

2342
01:35:31,620 --> 01:35:28,510
covered in my my book okay that's that's

2343
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fair yeah well Kevin you you've been out

2344
01:35:37,890 --> 01:35:35,080
on a on a few dozen cases the odds are

2345
01:35:40,130 --> 01:35:37,900
that you probably saw you know what most

2346
01:35:43,380 --> 01:35:40,140
veterinary pathologists who look at this

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01:35:45,870 --> 01:35:43,390
mystery have said in the past that this

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is nothing more than then misidentified

2349
01:35:50,250 --> 01:35:48,340
scavenger action and and we both know

2350
01:35:52,500 --> 01:35:50,260
Kevin that that scavengers can be pretty

2351
01:35:54,750 --> 01:35:52,510
creative in the way that they can attack

2352
01:35:56,850 --> 01:35:54,760
a carcass however do you really have a

2353
01:35:58,530 --> 01:35:56,860
sense that that totally is a blanket

2354
01:36:00,360 --> 01:35:58,540
explanation for all these cases that

2355
01:36:03,290 --> 01:36:00,370
that did I think it's kind of like when

2356
01:36:06,060 --> 01:36:03,300
you start looking at UFOs and

2357
01:36:08,610 --> 01:36:06,070
explanations is extraterrestrial the

2358
01:36:10,440 --> 01:36:08,620
only explanation well no it's not there

2359
01:36:12,750 --> 01:36:10,450
there are other other explanations

2360
01:36:15,060 --> 01:36:12,760
possible I know and I mentioned Jeff

2361
01:36:17,310 --> 01:36:15,070
Davis earlier that he and I were talking

2362
01:36:18,900 --> 01:36:17,320
about this and he mentioned that he one

2363
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:18,910
of the mutilations he'd been to you know

2364
01:36:23,190 --> 01:36:21,130
the farmer had done it and he done it

2365
01:36:26,460 --> 01:36:23,200
for the insurance money because the cow

2366
01:36:29,100 --> 01:36:26,470
had died of disease it had been a sickly

2367
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:29,110
cow and if the cow died of disease then

2368
01:36:32,820 --> 01:36:30,730
he didn't get insurance money but if it

2369
01:36:34,770 --> 01:36:32,830
had been killed and mutilated he killed

2370
01:36:37,020 --> 01:36:34,780
by some unknown agency whatever that

2371
01:36:39,330 --> 01:36:37,030
agency might be then he got his

2372
01:36:40,820 --> 01:36:39,340
insurance money and and Davis Davis knew

2373
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:40,830
that so I mean there there's another

2374
01:36:45,510 --> 01:36:43,090
another motivation and I know you're

2375
01:36:47,850 --> 01:36:45,520
also right that there were copycats I

2376
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:47,860
talked to a group of young meatpacking

2377
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was big here in Iowa and still I guess

2378
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:53,290
is still kind of big in Iowa and I

2379
01:36:57,090 --> 01:36:55,090
talked to a number of butchers who had

2380
01:36:59,370 --> 01:36:57,100
said that they had come across the cow

2381
01:37:01,320 --> 01:36:59,380
in the field that had died and they they

2382
01:37:03,510 --> 01:37:01,330
partially butch did it for them for the

2383
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:03,520
sheer joy of doing it and seeing what

2384
01:37:07,050 --> 01:37:04,570
the media said

2385
01:37:09,419 --> 01:37:07,060
about it the media I think spawned a

2386
01:37:12,330 --> 01:37:09,429
great number of these the mutilation

2387
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:12,340
stories because sometimes I it's really

2388
01:37:15,930 --> 01:37:14,170
not say that they didn't care they just

2389
01:37:18,359 --> 01:37:15,940
didn't ask the follow-up questions

2390
01:37:20,129 --> 01:37:18,369
well here's it here's a dead cow it's a

2391
01:37:21,330 --> 01:37:20,139
mutilation yeah well we'll run with that

2392
01:37:23,250 --> 01:37:21,340
and they didn't have to follow up

2393
01:37:24,780 --> 01:37:23,260
questions they didn't go as far far into

2394
01:37:26,490 --> 01:37:24,790
it as a they could have and they may

2395
01:37:27,629 --> 01:37:26,500
have may have not done it simply because

2396
01:37:28,830 --> 01:37:27,639
they didn't have time they said you've

2397
01:37:30,180 --> 01:37:28,840
got to destroy them the mutilation he

2398
01:37:31,890 --> 01:37:30,190
knocked out what he had and went on to

2399
01:37:34,919 --> 01:37:31,900
the next story so I mean it there's a

2400
01:37:37,859 --> 01:37:34,929
whole range of explanations for the

2401
01:37:39,510 --> 01:37:37,869
whole phenomenon yeah I had not well it

2402
01:37:42,899 --> 01:37:39,520
was Dugway I think Dugway proving

2403
01:37:47,310 --> 01:37:42,909
grounds in Utah that released chemical

2404
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:47,320
and killed 6,000 sheep yeah yeah and and

2405
01:37:52,470 --> 01:37:49,810
so you mean here's here's something that

2406
01:37:53,790 --> 01:37:52,480
that it was mysterious but it was an

2407
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:53,800
extraterrestrial but it was still

2408
01:37:59,220 --> 01:37:56,170
something it was mysterious so yeah I

2409
01:38:01,439 --> 01:37:59,230
I've always counted people's you know

2410
01:38:03,750 --> 01:38:01,449
counting certain extraterrestrial

2411
01:38:06,660 --> 01:38:03,760
theories uh as a possible

2412
01:38:08,459 --> 01:38:06,670
you know explanation for the few hi

2413
01:38:11,310 --> 01:38:08,469
strange cases that that we do have on

2414
01:38:14,550 --> 01:38:11,320
record and and have been established of

2415
01:38:16,740 --> 01:38:14,560
course if Linda is correct and these

2416
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:16,750
these beans are coming here from

2417
01:38:21,209 --> 01:38:18,610
light-years away to gather genetic

2418
01:38:23,250 --> 01:38:21,219
material wouldn't it be easier just to

2419
01:38:24,870 --> 01:38:23,260
pick the lock on a slaughterhouse and go

2420
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:24,880
in and get all the parts and blood that

2421
01:38:29,910 --> 01:38:28,449
you could possibly ever we process these

2422
01:38:34,140 --> 01:38:29,920
and I had a similar statement about

2423
01:38:35,790 --> 01:38:34,150
alien abduction which was if you're if

2424
01:38:37,229 --> 01:38:35,800
you're doing it for the genetic material

2425
01:38:40,530 --> 01:38:37,239
wouldn't it just be easier to abduct the

2426
01:38:42,689 --> 01:38:40,540
barrels behind the barber shops and get

2427
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:42,699
them a genetic material that way that

2428
01:38:47,609 --> 01:38:45,250
you if you needed it into yeah or

2429
01:38:49,350 --> 01:38:47,619
implant things why don't they use

2430
01:38:50,850 --> 01:38:49,360
nanotechnology why do they have these

2431
01:38:53,790 --> 01:38:50,860
things that look suspiciously like

2432
01:38:56,010 --> 01:38:53,800
pieces of glass and metal and and again

2433
01:38:57,810 --> 01:38:56,020
I mean in it with the abductions you've

2434
01:39:00,000 --> 01:38:57,820
got the same thing I don't think there's

2435
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:00,010
any one explanation that that covers

2436
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:02,170
covers at all I I know that sleep

2437
01:39:08,490 --> 01:39:05,290
paralysis in abductions does explain

2438
01:39:09,870 --> 01:39:08,500
some cases of alien abduction doesn't

2439
01:39:11,459 --> 01:39:09,880
explain them all but it does explain

2440
01:39:13,410 --> 01:39:11,469
some of them and one of them I was

2441
01:39:16,859 --> 01:39:13,420
involved in which was the Pat Roach

2442
01:39:18,060 --> 01:39:16,869
abduction in Utah in 1973 and I am

2443
01:39:19,950 --> 01:39:18,070
absolutely convinced now

2444
01:39:22,500 --> 01:39:19,960
having reviewed all the material and

2445
01:39:23,850 --> 01:39:22,510
learned more about psychology that she

2446
01:39:27,419 --> 01:39:23,860
experienced an episode of sleep

2447
01:39:28,979 --> 01:39:27,429
paralysis and that's that explains the

2448
01:39:31,169 --> 01:39:28,989
whole thing of the aliens come in the

2449
01:39:33,870 --> 01:39:31,179
house and the whole thing but does that

2450
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:33,880
mean that all aliens are explainable by

2451
01:39:38,189 --> 01:39:36,250
it absolutely not

2452
01:39:39,899 --> 01:39:38,199
yeah it means that one case is

2453
01:39:41,700 --> 01:39:39,909
explainable by it and there's probably

2454
01:39:43,620 --> 01:39:41,710
others are there's probably others

2455
01:39:46,020 --> 01:39:43,630
correct but it does not explain them all

2456
01:39:48,149 --> 01:39:46,030
well how familiar are you with the

2457
01:39:50,910 --> 01:39:48,159
National Institute of Discovery Sciences

2458
01:39:54,030 --> 01:39:50,920
work veterinary pathologist dr. George

2459
01:39:56,100 --> 01:39:54,040
Arnett Kong Kelleher and the field

2460
01:39:58,589 --> 01:39:56,110
investigative network including gay

2461
01:40:00,750 --> 01:39:58,599
Bauhaus who I think worked for them five

2462
01:40:02,370 --> 01:40:00,760
or six years are you familiar with the

2463
01:40:04,229 --> 01:40:02,380
papers they published on the mutilation

2464
01:40:07,140 --> 01:40:04,239
phenomenon yes what do you think of

2465
01:40:09,149 --> 01:40:07,150
their theory that actually went on to

2466
01:40:10,950 --> 01:40:09,159
spawn clone Kelleher's book brain trust

2467
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:10,960
what do you think of the theory that we

2468
01:40:15,629 --> 01:40:14,050
saw a monitoring program in the 80s and

2469
01:40:17,790 --> 01:40:15,639
90s that may have been looking for

2470
01:40:20,790 --> 01:40:17,800
transmissible spongiform encephalopathy

2471
01:40:21,780 --> 01:40:20,800
or prion disease mad cow disease if you

2472
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:21,790
will in the food chain

2473
01:40:27,089 --> 01:40:24,610
yeah it's just one of those things you

2474
01:40:30,780 --> 01:40:27,099
would think it would be simpler just to

2475
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:30,790
buy the cows well how do we know they

2476
01:40:39,060 --> 01:40:37,090
don't do that we don't I'm just know

2477
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:39,070
that the government rents live rents

2478
01:40:42,629 --> 01:40:41,650
grazing land in certain areas and raises

2479
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:42,639
livestock on it

2480
01:40:46,169 --> 01:40:44,290
we know that the National Institutes of

2481
01:40:47,399 --> 01:40:46,179
Health have done that but I'm what I'm

2482
01:40:48,959 --> 01:40:47,409
saying is it seems to me it would be

2483
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:48,969
easier to buy the cows and leave the

2484
01:40:55,050 --> 01:40:51,489
didn't leave the remains of the animal

2485
01:40:57,149 --> 01:40:55,060
behind for people to find and then start

2486
01:40:58,260 --> 01:40:57,159
all kinds of inquiry into it because the

2487
01:41:00,600 --> 01:40:58,270
last thing you'd want to do is draw

2488
01:41:02,069 --> 01:41:00,610
attention to something like that well

2489
01:41:03,810 --> 01:41:02,079
actually if you take the animals that's

2490
01:41:05,250 --> 01:41:03,820
that's when the police reports filed if

2491
01:41:07,109 --> 01:41:05,260
you leave it there there's no there's no

2492
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:07,119
police report filed and it's plausible

2493
01:41:11,939 --> 01:41:09,010
not deniability saying if you buy the

2494
01:41:14,459 --> 01:41:11,949
buy the animal as opposed to steal it

2495
01:41:16,859 --> 01:41:14,469
you know I I don't know I yeah the other

2496
01:41:19,410 --> 01:41:16,869
thing is I know back back in the early

2497
01:41:21,300 --> 01:41:19,420
seventies when I was flying for the Iowa

2498
01:41:24,419 --> 01:41:21,310
National Guard we were flying

2499
01:41:26,010 --> 01:41:24,429
helicopters from point A to point B and

2500
01:41:26,879 --> 01:41:26,020
one of the guys in the formation says

2501
01:41:29,819 --> 01:41:26,889
you're not gonna believe this we're

2502
01:41:31,950 --> 01:41:29,829
taking fire and some farmer was shooting

2503
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:31,960
at us because the rumors were that the

2504
01:41:36,510 --> 01:41:34,330
there's being used to rustle cattle so

2505
01:41:38,459 --> 01:41:36,520
I'm thinking you know we're flying

2506
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:38,469
gunships maybe we should return fire for

2507
01:41:44,610 --> 01:41:42,730
final exchanges call you USO Kevin yeah

2508
01:41:48,030 --> 01:41:44,620
well there's also a theory that that

2509
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:48,040
returning pilots from Vietnam in 75 were

2510
01:41:53,690 --> 01:41:50,410
out on the Front Range of Colorado based

2511
01:41:56,580 --> 01:41:53,700
out of Fort Carson having fun and games

2512
01:41:58,080 --> 01:41:56,590
you're just sort of pranking the

2513
01:42:00,720 --> 01:41:58,090
ranching community they booked going

2514
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:00,730
down and mutilating cattle and and then

2515
01:42:05,700 --> 01:42:02,890
when the sensationalism and the hysteria

2516
01:42:08,670 --> 01:42:05,710
hit voilá do you have yourself a bona

2517
01:42:11,970 --> 01:42:08,680
fide paranormal mystery on your hands I

2518
01:42:14,459 --> 01:42:11,980
would not think that being a Ben I'm

2519
01:42:16,050 --> 01:42:14,469
helicopter pilot myself I would not

2520
01:42:17,580 --> 01:42:16,060
think I why I think they might have

2521
01:42:19,670 --> 01:42:17,590
pranked people I wouldn't think they'd

2522
01:42:23,130 --> 01:42:19,680
be done they're murdering cattle just to

2523
01:42:25,890 --> 01:42:23,140
for fun and games like that returning

2524
01:42:28,350 --> 01:42:25,900
vets I mean remember you're talking to

2525
01:42:31,410 --> 01:42:28,360
returning vet here I know I know when I

2526
01:42:33,209 --> 01:42:31,420
was a helicopter pilot so I can speak

2527
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:33,219
with some authority to them you can you

2528
01:42:38,940 --> 01:42:37,330
can absolutely so that theory was put

2529
01:42:43,170 --> 01:42:38,950
forward by by some law-enforcement

2530
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:43,180
officials back in the 70s and it's it's

2531
01:42:48,090 --> 01:42:46,090
a bit of a stretch but I've talked to

2532
01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:48,100
tea sheriffs whose guys tried to bring

2533
01:42:53,670 --> 01:42:50,770
down military-style helicopters in the

2534
01:42:56,100 --> 01:42:53,680
midst of a very intense the perception

2535
01:42:58,530 --> 01:42:56,110
of a very intense wave of cattle the

2536
01:43:00,780 --> 01:42:58,540
unexplained cattle deaths in in the case

2537
01:43:03,510 --> 01:43:00,790
of one Rancher 49 head in two weeks

2538
01:43:05,940 --> 01:43:03,520
that's the predators and scavengers must

2539
01:43:08,970 --> 01:43:05,950
be awful hungry and efficient to be able

2540
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:08,980
to pull that off by the way and they did

2541
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:10,810
stake out his ranch and try to bring

2542
01:43:16,229 --> 01:43:13,090
down choppers which am one and they

2543
01:43:17,729 --> 01:43:16,239
actually made it smoke and they were

2544
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:17,739
kind of unsure whether it was going to

2545
01:43:23,550 --> 01:43:20,890
make it all the way back to to support

2546
01:43:25,830 --> 01:43:23,560
Carson worthy you know their copier the

2547
01:43:27,209 --> 01:43:25,840
helicopter is depending you know you

2548
01:43:29,490 --> 01:43:27,219
could bring down a helicopter with a

2549
01:43:33,030 --> 01:43:29,500
single round depending if you hit it

2550
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:33,040
right and in one case it I'd say in one

2551
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:35,290
case yeah I took a hundred and five hits

2552
01:43:43,770 --> 01:43:40,050
in one helicopter and we flew it out Wow

2553
01:43:44,970 --> 01:43:43,780
whatever look what it Gary no it was

2554
01:43:50,250 --> 01:43:44,980
annoying

2555
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:50,260
105 how to count them a 1 2 3 see know

2556
01:43:55,050 --> 01:43:51,250
what I mean

2557
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:55,060
after we got back we landed and we then

2558
01:44:00,060 --> 01:43:57,010
we counted the aircraft was pretty well

2559
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:00,070
done in on here - I hit an anti-tank

2560
01:44:05,490 --> 01:44:02,050
mine with a helicopter and managed to

2561
01:44:07,020 --> 01:44:05,500
fly it out so and it was it was pretty

2562
01:44:08,490 --> 01:44:07,030
well total once we got out they couldn't

2563
01:44:11,340 --> 01:44:08,500
believe I actually got it off the ground

2564
01:44:14,070 --> 01:44:11,350
and had I been thinking I would not have

2565
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:14,080
I would have left it where it was ridden

2566
01:44:16,860 --> 01:44:15,489
out with somebody else instead of flying

2567
01:44:19,500 --> 01:44:16,870
flying out myself

2568
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:19,510
so I it just it just really really

2569
01:44:24,750 --> 01:44:22,530
depends I just can't see I can see guys

2570
01:44:26,910 --> 01:44:24,760
doing low-level how we used to do that

2571
01:44:30,090 --> 01:44:26,920
all the time because it was fun

2572
01:44:32,910 --> 01:44:30,100
I remember chasing a deer one day with a

2573
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:32,920
helicopter you know in Texas just flying

2574
01:44:37,470 --> 01:44:34,690
flying along I was just chasing the deer

2575
01:44:38,910 --> 01:44:37,480
for something to do and realize I was it

2576
01:44:39,900 --> 01:44:38,920
was getting really worn out sighs well

2577
01:44:43,050 --> 01:44:39,910
that's enough of that we'll leave the

2578
01:44:46,170 --> 01:44:43,060
poor deer alone on they took off I was

2579
01:44:49,260 --> 01:44:46,180
reported as harassing a herd of cattle

2580
01:44:51,630 --> 01:44:49,270
I'd been picked up by a via helicopter a

2581
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:51,640
friend of mine had had hired a

2582
01:44:55,740 --> 01:44:53,170
helicopter to come down in the San Luis

2583
01:44:57,750 --> 01:44:55,750
Valley and to videotape the area and we

2584
01:45:00,300 --> 01:44:57,760
videotaped in a big circle around the

2585
01:45:02,550 --> 01:45:00,310
valley and he let me fly it back from

2586
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:02,560
Mauna Vista to Creston which is about 65

2587
01:45:06,090 --> 01:45:04,810
miles he let me actually say keep your

2588
01:45:07,860 --> 01:45:06,100
feet off the rudders but you can go

2589
01:45:09,810 --> 01:45:07,870
ahead and fly and so I was actually it's

2590
01:45:11,460 --> 01:45:09,820
not rudders but that's okay we won't be

2591
01:45:13,710 --> 01:45:11,470
politically correct here I don't know if

2592
01:45:16,170 --> 01:45:13,720
I want Chris O'Brien to fly a helicopter

2593
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:16,180
in which I'm riding but that's how it

2594
01:45:28,170 --> 01:45:18,130
goes Kevin Randle joining gene and Chris

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01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:31,780
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2620
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2623
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2651
01:48:05,189 --> 01:48:02,710
here's Jane Steinberg so we learned here

2652
01:48:06,300 --> 01:48:05,199
that we have an unlicensed helicopter

2653
01:48:08,820 --> 01:48:06,310
pilot in our midst

2654
01:48:10,890 --> 01:48:08,830
it was a black helicopter Chris it was

2655
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:10,900
on I'd swoop this way it swooped that

2656
01:48:15,750 --> 01:48:12,610
way and then I saw herd of cattle so I

2657
01:48:17,010 --> 01:48:15,760
started swooping down I he he would he

2658
01:48:18,510 --> 01:48:17,020
had bet he had his hands behind his head

2659
01:48:21,090 --> 01:48:18,520
he was kind of snooze and while I was

2660
01:48:22,290 --> 01:48:21,100
doing that he was very trusting and you

2661
01:48:23,820 --> 01:48:22,300
know he said I don't know if we should

2662
01:48:26,850 --> 01:48:23,830
be doing that well a little bit I know

2663
01:48:29,399 --> 01:48:26,860
the rancher saw me do this I was in a

2664
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:29,409
dark purple little two-man helicopter he

2665
01:48:33,270 --> 01:48:31,210
immediately called the sheriff reported

2666
01:48:36,149 --> 01:48:33,280
a mysterious black helicopter harassing

2667
01:48:39,149 --> 01:48:36,159
us heard the sheriff and a deputy tried

2668
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:39,159
to chase us all the way back to the 60

2669
01:48:42,510 --> 01:48:40,810
miles to crest them but because the

2670
01:48:45,149 --> 01:48:42,520
roads are not you know direct route you

2671
01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:45,159
have to do the angle turns around passes

2672
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:46,449
and stuff they couldn't keep up with it

2673
01:48:50,250 --> 01:48:48,730
and if the Rocky Mountain news the next

2674
01:48:52,740 --> 01:48:50,260
day reported that mysterious black

2675
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:52,750
helicopters team harassing herds in in

2676
01:48:56,490 --> 01:48:55,330
Monte Vista Colorado you know what

2677
01:48:58,410 --> 01:48:56,500
there's an interesting ladies and

2678
01:49:02,070 --> 01:48:58,420
gentlemen now we know we have the

2679
01:49:05,729 --> 01:49:02,080
admission from Chris O'Brien that he was

2680
01:49:07,770 --> 01:49:05,739
once the pilot of a black or almost

2681
01:49:11,399 --> 01:49:07,780
black helicopter listen we all have four

2682
01:49:13,290 --> 01:49:11,409
segments left of this episode that

2683
01:49:14,669 --> 01:49:13,300
really happened let's make one other

2684
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:14,679
thing clear when you talk about the

2685
01:49:17,610 --> 01:49:16,090
unlicensed helicopter pilot you're

2686
01:49:20,189 --> 01:49:17,620
talking about Chris not me because I do

2687
01:49:22,020 --> 01:49:20,199
in fact have a license I understand I

2688
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:22,030
understand the distinction because

2689
01:49:27,300 --> 01:49:24,489
you're doing it from the military you're

2690
01:49:29,250 --> 01:49:27,310
paid and trained to do this Chris was

2691
01:49:32,070 --> 01:49:29,260
just having a heap of fun Chris more

2692
01:49:35,220 --> 01:49:32,080
questions from the forums yes we do have

2693
01:49:37,110 --> 01:49:35,230
some more interesting I have a wide a

2694
01:49:39,450 --> 01:49:37,120
lot of questions here about the cattle I

2695
01:49:42,570 --> 01:49:39,460
think we pretty much covered all this

2696
01:49:45,990 --> 01:49:42,580
okay here's one from a very recent

2697
01:49:48,899 --> 01:49:46,000
signing up at the forum dr. Perry Capcom

2698
01:49:50,879 --> 01:49:48,909
he calls himself Tom 1961 and he says Mr

2699
01:49:53,550 --> 01:49:50,889
Randall I'm a fan and respected service

2700
01:49:55,410 --> 01:49:53,560
to our country do you think the US

2701
01:49:58,590 --> 01:49:55,420
government has alien bodies somewhere

2702
01:50:00,280 --> 01:49:58,600
yes do we need to do we need to modify

2703
01:50:02,780 --> 01:50:00,290
the answer

2704
01:50:06,260 --> 01:50:02,790
well maybe a couple of more details you

2705
01:50:09,170 --> 01:50:06,270
have three-and-a-half segments see yeah

2706
01:50:10,310 --> 01:50:09,180
I think I think the Roswell case to me

2707
01:50:12,950 --> 01:50:10,320
the Roswell case is pretty well

2708
01:50:15,500 --> 01:50:12,960
established as being alien in nature and

2709
01:50:17,870 --> 01:50:15,510
the bodies were recovered from that

2710
01:50:20,090 --> 01:50:17,880
crash so yes the government has them we

2711
01:50:22,250 --> 01:50:20,100
can trace them off there the scene in

2712
01:50:24,740 --> 01:50:22,260
New Mexico we can get him to right field

2713
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:24,750
like Patterson Air Force Base from that

2714
01:50:28,970 --> 01:50:26,850
point on we don't know general exon told

2715
01:50:32,510 --> 01:50:28,980
us that one of the bodies had been sent

2716
01:50:35,390 --> 01:50:32,520
to Lowry Air Force Base in Denver Lowry

2717
01:50:36,830 --> 01:50:35,400
at the time was the Army's mortuary

2718
01:50:39,200 --> 01:50:36,840
service was there so they sent one of

2719
01:50:40,850 --> 01:50:39,210
the bodies there too I guess

2720
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:40,860
find out the best ways to preserve it

2721
01:50:45,350 --> 01:50:42,810
without altering the chemical and

2722
01:50:48,290 --> 01:50:45,360
biological nature of the samples and

2723
01:50:50,570 --> 01:50:48,300
then it apparently went back to to right

2724
01:50:52,070 --> 01:50:50,580
field we have we have some very good

2725
01:50:53,630 --> 01:50:52,080
testimony from people who were involved

2726
01:50:55,100 --> 01:50:53,640
we have some very good testimony from

2727
01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:55,110
the people at wright-patterson Air Force

2728
01:50:58,270 --> 01:50:55,770
Base

2729
01:51:00,890 --> 01:50:58,280
Frank Iero who Carl flock in his book

2730
01:51:02,900 --> 01:51:00,900
took the tasks and said the Roswell fire

2731
01:51:04,370 --> 01:51:02,910
department wasn't involved in this and

2732
01:51:05,450 --> 01:51:04,380
and we were talking we were talking

2733
01:51:06,950 --> 01:51:05,460
about this a little bit earlier with

2734
01:51:08,420 --> 01:51:06,960
about the press not asking the follow-up

2735
01:51:10,940 --> 01:51:08,430
question Carl and his book would quote

2736
01:51:12,050 --> 01:51:10,950
from a firefighter who says yeah we

2737
01:51:14,990 --> 01:51:12,060
weren't involved we didn't do anything

2738
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:15,000
we didn't go out there and the story and

2739
01:51:18,530 --> 01:51:16,770
I talked to the guy some time after Carl

2740
01:51:20,210 --> 01:51:18,540
flock didn't I you know asked him the

2741
01:51:21,380 --> 01:51:20,220
same question got the same story I they

2742
01:51:22,970 --> 01:51:21,390
didn't go out there and I asked him one

2743
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:22,980
other question I said you know Dan Dwyer

2744
01:51:26,450 --> 01:51:24,810
which was Frankie rose father he was a

2745
01:51:28,790 --> 01:51:26,460
firefighter there he said oh yeah he

2746
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:28,800
went out thanks and what he said yeah he

2747
01:51:32,540 --> 01:51:31,170
went out he this colonel from the base

2748
01:51:34,490 --> 01:51:32,550
had come out and told us that we didn't

2749
01:51:35,930 --> 01:51:34,500
have to go out there they would take

2750
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:35,940
care of it don't worry about it

2751
01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:37,410
I've always wondered why it's always a

2752
01:51:41,510 --> 01:51:38,970
colonel never captain never made here's

2753
01:51:43,730 --> 01:51:41,520
always a colonel came out to tell him

2754
01:51:45,470 --> 01:51:43,740
that he said but Dan went out in his

2755
01:51:47,480 --> 01:51:45,480
personal car and he saw the craft you

2756
01:51:48,680 --> 01:51:47,490
saw the bodies Carl didn't ask the

2757
01:51:51,020 --> 01:51:48,690
question he got the information he

2758
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:51,030
wanted which was the firefighters didn't

2759
01:51:54,020 --> 01:51:52,530
go out there they defied apartment

2760
01:51:55,820 --> 01:51:54,030
wasn't involved they didn't make a run

2761
01:51:58,280 --> 01:51:55,830
out there and that was the end of that

2762
01:52:00,140 --> 01:51:58,290
and I asked the one one more question

2763
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:00,150
and got the rest of the story out of it

2764
01:52:05,570 --> 01:52:03,690
so yes I believe that the US government

2765
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:05,580
has the alien bodies I believe they

2766
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:07,170
would preserve them because they would

2767
01:52:11,780 --> 01:52:09,810
be unique biological samples and you you

2768
01:52:12,770 --> 01:52:11,790
don't know when you get more specimens

2769
01:52:18,319 --> 01:52:12,780
they

2770
01:52:20,270 --> 01:52:18,329
came from so yes I believe that the the

2771
01:52:22,459 --> 01:52:20,280
government does have alien bodies okay

2772
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:22,469
so how do we nail this down to a point

2773
01:52:27,859 --> 01:52:25,530
where we can prove to anybody this is so

2774
01:52:30,020 --> 01:52:27,869
maybe the evidence points that way and

2775
01:52:32,060 --> 01:52:30,030
certainly there are reasons if there

2776
01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:32,070
were aliens to think that if there was a

2777
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:34,050
crash we'd recovered the bodies and

2778
01:52:38,419 --> 01:52:35,610
maybe we would try to learn something

2779
01:52:40,700 --> 01:52:38,429
about them but how do we prove it what

2780
01:52:42,830 --> 01:52:40,710
we need to do is find the photographs

2781
01:52:44,540 --> 01:52:42,840
find what the bodies are and get the

2782
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:44,550
people who are involved in the autopsies

2783
01:52:48,669 --> 01:52:47,010
and the studies to admit the truth and

2784
01:52:51,260 --> 01:52:48,679
give us all the information about it

2785
01:52:54,319 --> 01:52:51,270
what we hope to do with the dream team

2786
01:52:58,339 --> 01:52:54,329
is not get quite that far but but

2787
01:53:01,040 --> 01:52:58,349
establish enough information establish

2788
01:53:03,350 --> 01:53:01,050
enough credible information enough

2789
01:53:06,410 --> 01:53:03,360
credible evidence that the event took

2790
01:53:08,779 --> 01:53:06,420
place and I think we can do that given

2791
01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:08,789
given some of the some of the stuff that

2792
01:53:11,510 --> 01:53:10,170
we've uncovered some of the stuff is

2793
01:53:14,810 --> 01:53:11,520
going on some of the things that have

2794
01:53:16,220 --> 01:53:14,820
been said in the past it did but it for

2795
01:53:17,870 --> 01:53:16,230
the most part right now it comes down to

2796
01:53:20,270 --> 01:53:17,880
the credibility of the people who were

2797
01:53:22,879 --> 01:53:20,280
who were there who who saw these sorts

2798
01:53:24,319 --> 01:53:22,889
of things and eliminate the nonsense is

2799
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:24,329
going on there's an awful lot of people

2800
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:26,010
running around talking about how they

2801
01:53:29,569 --> 01:53:27,690
were in Roswell and they did this and

2802
01:53:32,540 --> 01:53:29,579
they did that and that really

2803
01:53:33,770 --> 01:53:32,550
complicates the issue because there are

2804
01:53:36,260 --> 01:53:33,780
people who want to believe them

2805
01:53:38,299 --> 01:53:36,270
regardless of the evidence against it

2806
01:53:40,310 --> 01:53:38,309
against what they're saying you know

2807
01:53:42,410 --> 01:53:40,320
well this guy wasn't there well he was

2808
01:53:44,029 --> 01:53:42,420
he came in on a special flight and

2809
01:53:45,620 --> 01:53:44,039
nothing was logged well if he can't

2810
01:53:48,350 --> 01:53:45,630
prove he was there then he does us no

2811
01:53:49,700 --> 01:53:48,360
good that sort of thing and we go with

2812
01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:49,710
the people who were there so we need to

2813
01:53:54,740 --> 01:53:52,650
we need to clarify who was there who was

2814
01:53:56,390 --> 01:53:54,750
not Walter Haught provided us with a

2815
01:53:58,129 --> 01:53:56,400
wonderful document which was the

2816
01:54:00,020 --> 01:53:58,139
yearbook they published think it was

2817
01:54:03,950 --> 01:54:00,030
actually finally published in November

2818
01:54:06,109 --> 01:54:03,960
of 1947 so we have a list of some 1500

2819
01:54:07,490 --> 01:54:06,119
people assigned to the base in 1947 so

2820
01:54:10,100 --> 01:54:07,500
if you say you were on the base I can go

2821
01:54:11,569 --> 01:54:10,110
to that book and if your pictures there

2822
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:11,579
we know you were if your pictures not

2823
01:54:15,890 --> 01:54:14,489
there well you might have been there but

2824
01:54:17,209 --> 01:54:15,900
we don't have the proof then we can go

2825
01:54:18,859 --> 01:54:17,219
to the phone book

2826
01:54:20,779 --> 01:54:18,869
we can go to the city directory there

2827
01:54:24,379 --> 01:54:20,789
are other ways we can we can verify that

2828
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:24,389
one guy Daniel Rasmussen his niece was

2829
01:54:26,300 --> 01:54:26,010
talking about how he had told her about

2830
01:54:29,750 --> 01:54:26,310
the

2831
01:54:30,620 --> 01:54:29,760
involved in it Rasmus ins pictures not

2832
01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:30,630
in the yearbook

2833
01:54:35,510 --> 01:54:32,850
but he's name is in the Roswell Army

2834
01:54:37,550 --> 01:54:35,520
Airfield phone book he's there as a

2835
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:37,560
captain so yeah we can prove that he was

2836
01:54:42,290 --> 01:54:40,890
their Pappy Henderson it doesn't have an

2837
01:54:43,700 --> 01:54:42,300
individual picture in the yearbook but

2838
01:54:45,410 --> 01:54:43,710
there's a picture in the back of him

2839
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:45,420
with this flight crew so you know we

2840
01:54:51,290 --> 01:54:47,450
know Pappy Henderson yeah he was there

2841
01:54:52,900 --> 01:54:51,300
one guy submitted documents with it with

2842
01:54:56,690 --> 01:54:52,910
the names of other guys who were there

2843
01:54:59,060 --> 01:54:56,700
brown melvin brown to prove he was there

2844
01:55:00,350 --> 01:54:59,070
at the right time submitted a set of

2845
01:55:02,150 --> 01:55:00,360
orders he had there were a number of

2846
01:55:04,820 --> 01:55:02,160
people being assigned to specific things

2847
01:55:06,110 --> 01:55:04,830
Jesse Marcel seniors name was on the

2848
01:55:08,060 --> 01:55:06,120
orders of one of the officers being

2849
01:55:10,090 --> 01:55:08,070
involved in that so there are ways

2850
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:10,100
approved the people were there and by

2851
01:55:15,100 --> 01:55:12,810
going through that information and

2852
01:55:18,350 --> 01:55:15,110
carefully analyzing that information

2853
01:55:21,500 --> 01:55:18,360
looking for other documentation I think

2854
01:55:23,530 --> 01:55:21,510
we can get to the point where worst case

2855
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:23,540
we can prove that none of the

2856
01:55:28,250 --> 01:55:25,770
alternative answers that have been

2857
01:55:31,220 --> 01:55:28,260
offered for Roswell are viable and then

2858
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:31,230
we're left with a single explanation so

2859
01:55:34,850 --> 01:55:33,090
we can do it that way and I think we can

2860
01:55:37,550 --> 01:55:34,860
get far enough down the path we've got

2861
01:55:40,340 --> 01:55:37,560
some things going that may help us help

2862
01:55:42,890 --> 01:55:40,350
us document this even further you think

2863
01:55:45,010 --> 01:55:42,900
after all these years though that

2864
01:55:47,570 --> 01:55:45,020
someone somewhere would have a

2865
01:55:51,260 --> 01:55:47,580
photograph something you can grab ahold

2866
01:55:54,100 --> 01:55:51,270
and prove this is true or not and we're

2867
01:55:56,720 --> 01:55:54,110
hoping we're hoping to find that person

2868
01:55:59,660 --> 01:55:56,730
we have talked to a number of people who

2869
01:56:02,240 --> 01:55:59,670
had debris and himself succour loss a

2870
01:56:04,010 --> 01:56:02,250
Robert Smith comes to mind I guess he

2871
01:56:06,110 --> 01:56:04,020
didn't have one but he saw a piece that

2872
01:56:07,850 --> 01:56:06,120
a sergeant had but he couldn't couldn't

2873
01:56:09,590 --> 01:56:07,860
remember who the sergeant was Pappy

2874
01:56:12,590 --> 01:56:09,600
Henderson supposedly had a piece of

2875
01:56:14,330 --> 01:56:12,600
debris and we visited and I say we I

2876
01:56:17,090 --> 01:56:14,340
should point out with Stan Freedman I

2877
01:56:21,530 --> 01:56:17,100
visit Pappy's wife Sal Henderson in

2878
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:21,540
California 92 93 and we were going to go

2879
01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:24,930
through his his materials and there were

2880
01:56:30,140 --> 01:56:27,210
two big huge sheds in the backyard and

2881
01:56:32,180 --> 01:56:30,150
sits in there the sheds were packed from

2882
01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:32,190
the floor to ceiling with boxes and all

2883
01:56:36,680 --> 01:56:34,890
kinds of stuff and she says if he still

2884
01:56:38,750 --> 01:56:36,690
had it it would be in there and we just

2885
01:56:39,830 --> 01:56:38,760
couldn't do it we didn't have the time

2886
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:39,840
we didn't we just

2887
01:56:46,250 --> 01:56:43,530
could not do that supposedly one of his

2888
01:56:47,810 --> 01:56:46,260
friends from shelter I think his name

2889
01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:47,820
was had a piece of the tree we tracked

2890
01:56:53,089 --> 01:56:49,650
that guy down he said no he didn't have

2891
01:56:54,919 --> 01:56:53,099
it so I mean we followed a lot of those

2892
01:56:59,780 --> 01:56:54,929
those leads we followed leads of

2893
01:57:01,250 --> 01:56:59,790
pictures a fella told me that a guy

2894
01:57:04,820 --> 01:57:01,260
named Stan he would only give us the

2895
01:57:07,189 --> 01:57:04,830
first name a guy named Staton had a

2896
01:57:08,870 --> 01:57:07,199
picture had pictures he'd been a cowboy

2897
01:57:10,729 --> 01:57:08,880
and he happened to get pictures of these

2898
01:57:14,629 --> 01:57:10,739
these things before the army showed up

2899
01:57:16,160 --> 01:57:14,639
and you wouldn't give us a last name and

2900
01:57:18,260 --> 01:57:16,170
all he would tell us he lived in Roswell

2901
01:57:20,750 --> 01:57:18,270
so we went to the tax assessor it's just

2902
01:57:22,790 --> 01:57:20,760
can you sort by first names and we're

2903
01:57:26,810 --> 01:57:22,800
not going to have that answer can the

2904
01:57:28,970 --> 01:57:26,820
tax assessor sort by first names how

2905
01:57:30,589 --> 01:57:28,980
efficient was that tax assessor Kevin

2906
01:57:41,450 --> 01:57:30,599
Randle will answer the question with

2907
01:57:44,750 --> 01:57:41,460
Gene and Kris you're in America is there

2908
01:57:46,729 --> 01:57:44,760
a secret UFO agenda do strange creatures

2909
01:57:48,919 --> 01:57:46,739
from the darkest corners of the mind

2910
01:57:52,459 --> 01:57:48,929
roam the earth is there evidence

2911
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:52,469
remaining for all time travel or devious

2912
01:57:57,229 --> 01:57:55,290
government conspiracies find out the

2913
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2914
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you go back to the tax assessor you ask

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02:02:09,310 --> 02:02:07,469
him the critical question can you sort

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02:02:13,040 --> 02:02:09,320
by first names and what was his response

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02:02:14,209 --> 02:02:13,050
yes so he gave him the name he sorted

3007
02:02:16,130 --> 02:02:14,219
through it I think he came up with three

3008
02:02:19,040 --> 02:02:16,140
hits to her businesses and one wasn't

3009
02:02:20,470 --> 02:02:19,050
was a guy who fit the description so Don

3010
02:02:23,450 --> 02:02:20,480
Schmidt and I went and visited him

3011
02:02:26,540 --> 02:02:23,460
chatted him up for a couple of hours he

3012
02:02:28,430 --> 02:02:26,550
didn't have any pictures but the point

3013
02:02:29,840 --> 02:02:28,440
was I mean we made a real effort to find

3014
02:02:32,900 --> 02:02:29,850
this guy and it was just incredible that

3015
02:02:34,669 --> 02:02:32,910
we could we could find the guy based

3016
02:02:36,470 --> 02:02:34,679
only on the I mean he had a bizarre

3017
02:02:39,560 --> 02:02:36,480
first name and we were able to sort by

3018
02:02:41,000 --> 02:02:39,570
first names and and get to that I we've

3019
02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:41,010
chased a lot of that stuff and we're

3020
02:02:44,830 --> 02:02:42,570
continuing to chase some of that stuff

3021
02:02:46,550 --> 02:02:44,840
one of the things we had not done

3022
02:02:49,970 --> 02:02:46,560
because it was a little bit more

3023
02:02:53,120 --> 02:02:49,980
difficult was um back in 1947 the

3024
02:02:54,620 --> 02:02:53,130
services were segregated the African

3025
02:02:58,189 --> 02:02:54,630
Americans had their own squadrons and

3026
02:02:59,990 --> 02:02:58,199
they had squadron s at Roswell there

3027
02:03:02,330 --> 02:03:00,000
were two white officers in command and

3028
02:03:04,250 --> 02:03:02,340
the NCOs and everybody else was you know

3029
02:03:06,709 --> 02:03:04,260
everybody else was African American

3030
02:03:09,140 --> 02:03:06,719
effect kal Korff said that you could

3031
02:03:11,180 --> 02:03:09,150
just disregard some of the information

3032
02:03:13,070 --> 02:03:11,190
because there were no black NCOs at

3033
02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:13,080
Roswell black sergeant's and Roswell in

3034
02:03:18,590 --> 02:03:16,410
1947 and so I got out the book and I

3035
02:03:20,510 --> 02:03:18,600
counted I think 25 of them so I said

3036
02:03:23,030 --> 02:03:20,520
well that's that's not right we have

3037
02:03:26,330 --> 02:03:23,040
interviewed we've been able to find some

3038
02:03:27,860 --> 02:03:26,340
of some of them as well and have gotten

3039
02:03:31,160 --> 02:03:27,870
some interesting stories but nothing

3040
02:03:33,709 --> 02:03:31,170
that there would be good evidence but

3041
02:03:36,050 --> 02:03:33,719
the point is we get there to some of the

3042
02:03:38,390 --> 02:03:36,060
people and they have they have tales

3043
02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:38,400
that they tell us and we get to some of

3044
02:03:42,800 --> 02:03:40,650
the others and they say no I know

3045
02:03:44,870 --> 02:03:42,810
nothing which is what you would expect

3046
02:03:46,939 --> 02:03:44,880
in a in a military operation that would

3047
02:03:49,160 --> 02:03:46,949
end up classified that not everybody

3048
02:03:50,780 --> 02:03:49,170
would know about it so you know we were

3049
02:03:52,850 --> 02:03:50,790
just trying to put together good

3050
02:03:54,709 --> 02:03:52,860
eyewitness testimony of what they saw

3051
02:03:57,620 --> 02:03:54,719
how they did it we've eliminated some

3052
02:03:59,840 --> 02:03:57,630
things some people that we thought had

3053
02:04:02,120 --> 02:03:59,850
given us good testimony because their

3054
02:04:05,240 --> 02:04:02,130
stories just do not track when we sit

3055
02:04:06,890 --> 02:04:05,250
down one guy was talking about how

3056
02:04:08,300 --> 02:04:06,900
they were involved with the crafts and

3057
02:04:09,860 --> 02:04:08,310
the bodies and it turns out his flight

3058
02:04:12,050 --> 02:04:09,870
crew wasn't there in the critical time

3059
02:04:13,850 --> 02:04:12,060
they had been assigned TDY somewhere

3060
02:04:15,380 --> 02:04:13,860
else and we clicked in the buy/sell know

3061
02:04:18,440 --> 02:04:15,390
I heard the story from other people so

3062
02:04:20,090 --> 02:04:18,450
he wasn't there himself so we say well

3063
02:04:21,770 --> 02:04:20,100
that's the secondhand story ok it's

3064
02:04:24,740 --> 02:04:21,780
interesting but it doesn't do much for

3065
02:04:26,300 --> 02:04:24,750
us so we hope by tracking down some of

3066
02:04:28,100 --> 02:04:26,310
this stuff we can put together some very

3067
02:04:29,840 --> 02:04:28,110
solid eyewitness testimony and we can

3068
02:04:30,200 --> 02:04:29,850
get some good documentation to back us

3069
02:04:31,940 --> 02:04:30,210
up

3070
02:04:34,160 --> 02:04:31,950
we have limited documentation and we're

3071
02:04:37,160 --> 02:04:34,170
continuing to search for more Chris we

3072
02:04:39,020 --> 02:04:37,170
have another few questions we do and

3073
02:04:41,630 --> 02:04:39,030
this one's an interesting one it comes

3074
02:04:43,610 --> 02:04:41,640
from a brand-new signee you know person

3075
02:04:46,520 --> 02:04:43,620
that forum dr. Peric ascom calling

3076
02:04:47,570 --> 02:04:46,530
himself OS prime you just signed up a

3077
02:04:50,150 --> 02:04:47,580
couple of weeks ago

3078
02:04:52,310 --> 02:04:50,160
hi mr. Kevin I find all your research in

3079
02:04:54,830 --> 02:04:52,320
books fascinating and had a couple of

3080
02:04:56,270 --> 02:04:54,840
questions as being someone that doubts

3081
02:04:58,450 --> 02:04:56,280
disclosure by the government about

3082
02:05:00,740 --> 02:04:58,460
aliens crashes or conspiracies or

3083
02:05:02,870 --> 02:05:00,750
anything pertaining to these subjects

3084
02:05:05,570 --> 02:05:02,880
will happen anytime soon but he's

3085
02:05:07,910 --> 02:05:05,580
curious Kevin he has an interesting

3086
02:05:11,180 --> 02:05:07,920
question here which do you think would

3087
02:05:13,250 --> 02:05:11,190
be more accepted or less accepted and

3088
02:05:15,860 --> 02:05:13,260
have less or more of a negative impact

3089
02:05:18,680 --> 02:05:15,870
on the world if these aliens and crafts

3090
02:05:20,630 --> 02:05:18,690
are from another planet galaxy or that

3091
02:05:22,220 --> 02:05:20,640
all the things worse were seen in the

3092
02:05:25,010 --> 02:05:22,230
sky are actually here from Earth like

3093
02:05:26,750 --> 02:05:25,020
the crypto or ultra terrestrial whether

3094
02:05:31,070 --> 02:05:26,760
it be underwater in the Arctic of

3095
02:05:33,680 --> 02:05:31,080
caverns and caves and even though that's

3096
02:05:36,590 --> 02:05:33,690
a fantastical Hall of Earth so which do

3097
02:05:40,760 --> 02:05:36,600
you think would be easier to accept and

3098
02:05:42,890 --> 02:05:40,770
harder to accept I would guess then it

3099
02:05:45,080 --> 02:05:42,900
would be easier to accept something that

3100
02:05:47,960 --> 02:05:45,090
was earth-based simply because it's

3101
02:05:50,810 --> 02:05:47,970
earth-based when you start talking about

3102
02:05:52,100 --> 02:05:50,820
aliens from other solar systems I don't

3103
02:05:53,750 --> 02:05:52,110
think it would be other galaxies because

3104
02:05:56,150 --> 02:05:53,760
the other galaxies are really really far

3105
02:05:58,010 --> 02:05:56,160
away so but I don't know I don't know

3106
02:05:59,780 --> 02:05:58,020
the the mechanism of traveling these

3107
02:06:01,730 --> 02:05:59,790
interstellar distances so so maybe

3108
02:06:03,170 --> 02:06:01,740
travelling between galaxies is as simple

3109
02:06:05,090 --> 02:06:03,180
as travelling between stars I don't know

3110
02:06:07,280 --> 02:06:05,100
you know there before you go on with an

3111
02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:07,290
answer there is a story this week from

3112
02:06:11,870 --> 02:06:08,850
one of the science publications about

3113
02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:11,880
more and more research being done into

3114
02:06:18,390 --> 02:06:14,970
using wormholes or some sort of warp

3115
02:06:20,910 --> 02:06:18,400
drive system to travel between the stars

3116
02:06:23,040 --> 02:06:20,920
how logically it could come about one of

3117
02:06:25,860 --> 02:06:23,050
them using negative energy and I was

3118
02:06:28,590 --> 02:06:25,870
thinking of Star Trek's antimatter go

3119
02:06:29,790 --> 02:06:28,600
ahead please but but but but we talking

3120
02:06:31,380 --> 02:06:29,800
about travel among the stars you know

3121
02:06:33,780 --> 02:06:31,390
that the closest star to earth other

3122
02:06:36,120 --> 02:06:33,790
than the Sun is what for light-years

3123
02:06:38,370 --> 02:06:36,130
away and there's a whole bunch within 50

3124
02:06:41,490 --> 02:06:38,380
light-years so that's fairly close

3125
02:06:43,020 --> 02:06:41,500
speaking galactically but the galaxy is

3126
02:06:44,490 --> 02:06:43,030
some hundred and ten thousand light

3127
02:06:46,950 --> 02:06:44,500
years across and thirty thousand

3128
02:06:49,500 --> 02:06:46,960
light-years deep and the closest galaxy

3129
02:06:51,750 --> 02:06:49,510
for galaxy to us up in the satellite

3130
02:06:54,540 --> 02:06:51,760
galaxies around us is Andromeda which is

3131
02:06:56,729 --> 02:06:54,550
about 2.2 million light-years away so I

3132
02:06:59,070 --> 02:06:56,739
mean that's a fantastic distance I'd

3133
02:07:02,189 --> 02:06:59,080
yeah I don't know if it's as easy to

3134
02:07:03,860 --> 02:07:02,199
travel those massive distances or where

3135
02:07:08,060 --> 02:07:03,870
we're kind of limited to what we can do

3136
02:07:11,280 --> 02:07:08,070
based on based on the land but I I think

3137
02:07:14,160 --> 02:07:11,290
that something that would be earth-based

3138
02:07:16,050 --> 02:07:14,170
would not be as disruptive as something

3139
02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:16,060
that was extraterrestrial but but I

3140
02:07:21,120 --> 02:07:17,530
don't know because I can think of ways

3141
02:07:23,520 --> 02:07:21,130
in which an earth-based technology like

3142
02:07:25,470 --> 02:07:23,530
that would be extremely disruptive and

3143
02:07:27,300 --> 02:07:25,480
maybe more frightening because they were

3144
02:07:28,770 --> 02:07:27,310
able to hide for so long from us so I

3145
02:07:32,490 --> 02:07:28,780
mean it's a it's an interesting question

3146
02:07:34,919 --> 02:07:32,500
and I guess the answer is I don't have a

3147
02:07:38,270 --> 02:07:34,929
good answer that brings back up that

3148
02:07:41,640 --> 02:07:38,280
whole question of disclosure and the

3149
02:07:43,680 --> 02:07:41,650
extent of the government's actual you

3150
02:07:46,110 --> 02:07:43,690
know the quality and in depth of their

3151
02:07:47,160 --> 02:07:46,120
knowledge about this well I don't I

3152
02:07:49,770 --> 02:07:47,170
don't think the government would lie to

3153
02:07:51,510 --> 02:07:49,780
us would they do we have any examples in

3154
02:07:54,090 --> 02:07:51,520
history of the government lying to us at

3155
02:07:58,200 --> 02:07:54,100
all do we have any examples in history

3156
02:08:00,300 --> 02:07:58,210
where the government has not lied to us

3157
02:08:01,919 --> 02:08:00,310
I mean poor old poor old Dwight

3158
02:08:03,780 --> 02:08:01,929
Eisenhower standing there and saying

3159
02:08:06,360 --> 02:08:03,790
we're not playing spy planes over the

3160
02:08:08,310 --> 02:08:06,370
Soviet Union had quite the scary powers

3161
02:08:12,090 --> 02:08:08,320
hear me Gary Powers is playing your spy

3162
02:08:16,470 --> 02:08:12,100
plane over our Soviet Union yeah I don't

3163
02:08:17,970 --> 02:08:16,480
I disclose your if we're talking after

3164
02:08:19,860 --> 02:08:17,980
terrestrial I think disclosure would be

3165
02:08:22,020 --> 02:08:19,870
forced by the aliens landing someplace

3166
02:08:26,189 --> 02:08:22,030
where they say here we are and there's

3167
02:08:27,450 --> 02:08:26,199
no way to to disguise it and the

3168
02:08:28,950 --> 02:08:27,460
government has to say yeah well we've

3169
02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:28,960
known about this for a long time so

3170
02:08:31,720 --> 02:08:30,010
don't worry about it I mean they've been

3171
02:08:33,640 --> 02:08:31,730
coming here for a long time and they

3172
02:08:35,550 --> 02:08:33,650
they haven't haven't invaded or blown up

3173
02:08:38,320 --> 02:08:35,560
the White House or anything like that

3174
02:08:40,720 --> 02:08:38,330
well they get roland emmerich the

3175
02:08:42,640 --> 02:08:40,730
director he's very good at blowing up

3176
02:08:43,720 --> 02:08:42,650
the White House he's done several films

3177
02:08:47,350 --> 02:08:43,730
yes

3178
02:08:50,020 --> 02:08:47,360
White House I took while I was in

3179
02:08:53,620 --> 02:08:50,030
Washington but that's another story but

3180
02:08:57,070 --> 02:08:53,630
I think I think that that you know the

3181
02:09:00,670 --> 02:08:57,080
aliens can force disclosure I think that

3182
02:09:02,290 --> 02:09:00,680
back in nineteen the the mid-1990s those

3183
02:09:04,630 --> 02:09:02,300
of us investigating Roswell had

3184
02:09:06,430 --> 02:09:04,640
frightened somebody because I can think

3185
02:09:07,900 --> 02:09:06,440
of no motivation for them to investigate

3186
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the Roswell case to say there's nothing

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to it if we if we haven't fightin them

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in some some fashion about what we were

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and they had to way to defuse how do you

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defuse the situation and I think when

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they first came out with their idiotic

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reports back there and everybody kind of

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today everybody says well yeah the

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government explained the Air Force

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explained it as a weather balloon and

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we're happy with that now but I think

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you know I think I think that if we can

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kind of all come together in a consensus

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of good solid information we may force

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me for something from the government but

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I think the only way it's really going

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to happen is the aliens show up and say

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here we are I think the issue I have

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about disclosure is if there's a secret

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there how do they keep the year after

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hasn't been some sort of whistleblower

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that really has something they have to

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admit something solid you wonder about

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that we'll get into an answer from Kevin

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dr. Stanton Friedman you are listening

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to the gold standard with gene and Chris

3322
02:15:01,190 --> 02:14:57,960
and the para cast Kevin Randall joining

3323
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us talking about right now disclosure so

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again it always comes back to this that

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if there's guilty knowledge within the

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government and they have such a heck of

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a problem keeping things hidden as we

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see now with the NSA stuff going on why

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isn't there a guy who gets in there a

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Snowden or someone who gets in there and

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02:15:26,350 --> 02:15:23,670
gets all this information and releases

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02:15:29,690 --> 02:15:26,360
it to WikiLeaks before it can be stopped

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we have well we are discussing it we

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have had people come out and talk about

3335
02:15:36,740 --> 02:15:33,780
it but not in a way that anybody

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02:15:38,600 --> 02:15:36,750
believes except for you know in general

3337
02:15:41,270 --> 02:15:38,610
a third of the people in the United

3338
02:15:42,560 --> 02:15:41,280
States believe that UFOs are real which

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would mean they feel their

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extraterrestrial that's just a belief

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where we talk about it on shows like

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this but I mean in a way where the

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government is forced to say yeah that's

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the leak that they were afraid of

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they've got to admit something I I think

3346
02:16:00,620 --> 02:15:56,940
they've done such a wonderful job of

3347
02:16:02,990 --> 02:16:00,630
hiding the material and you know we look

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02:16:03,950 --> 02:16:03,000
at the mj-12 stuff they say wow here's

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the smoking gun

3350
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government documents proving that there

3351
02:16:11,510 --> 02:16:08,760
were alien creatures and now and now

3352
02:16:13,040 --> 02:16:11,520
it's pretty well proven that it's a hoax

3353
02:16:15,760 --> 02:16:13,050
so you become is this a disinformation

3354
02:16:18,590 --> 02:16:15,770
campaign to keep the idea of ridicule

3355
02:16:19,970 --> 02:16:18,600
going on so that if this documentation

3356
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does show up we can just ridicule it

3357
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like we have in the past is it so

3358
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narrowly held that you don't get

3359
02:16:29,510 --> 02:16:26,970
somebody like Snowden that has access to

3360
02:16:31,629 --> 02:16:29,520
it I'm just I'm stunned that Snowden was

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able to gain access to as much as he did

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back in the olden days before we had

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computers and you could get access to

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crack every kind of thing your access

3365
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was really really limited so that it

3366
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made sense back then it may be that

3367
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they've been very careful in in

3368
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isolating this material so that you

3369
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don't get a Snowden who who is releasing

3370
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releasing it or you end up with this is

3371
02:16:59,440 --> 02:16:57,740
a disinformation campaign type stuff so

3372
02:17:02,469 --> 02:16:59,450
maybe you hire some Secret Service

3373
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agents send them over to a warehouse 13

3374
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where they investigate the alien

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artifacts and the evidence but it's done

3376
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in such a way that it just doesn't

3377
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become obvious to anybody you've got to

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be very narrowly very narrowly

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controlled and you've got to be very

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very careful about who you bring into it

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and I think that that and and and and

3382
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this this may be the path to disclosure

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02:17:25,150 --> 02:17:23,990
eventually is that somebody like Snowden

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gets in there and says you know here's

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the here's the UFO documents there have

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been things that have appeared in the

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UFO documents that are stunning that

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have been have been leak there's I've

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got an FBI report which the FBI saying

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well we didn't investigate really

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investigate UFOs I got a report from the

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1960s in which an FBI agent attended a

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lecture by an English or Van Tassel via

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the contactee and he submitted an

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official report to Washington DC about

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what went on at this UFO lecture that he

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that Van Tassel gave so they were

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clearly investigating stuff you know Van

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Tassel was a contact D I think he was he

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was the Venusian guy and the Z the

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Venusian guy and Adamski that Marsh no

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it's the other way around

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Van Tassel was the Martian guy and

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Adamski was the Venusian guy but that

3405
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doesn't really matter in the scheme of

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well but but but the point simply or the

3407
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FBI was was keeping tabs on these guys

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listening what they said under the

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guides of their research so documents do

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come out we've project moon dust which

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was their investigation of returning

3412
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space debris of foreign manufacture

3413
02:18:38,440 --> 02:18:35,540
which could mean extraterrestrial and

3414
02:18:41,049 --> 02:18:38,450
when when jeff Bingaman from new mexico

3415
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queried the Air Force about project moon

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dust they said there is no such project

3417
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never existed and when the documentation

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was

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presented that the State Department

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accidentally released it says Project

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loon dust on it the Air Force said we'd

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like to modify our last statement the

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moon dust did exist we never used it

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well in the book I've been working on

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through Project Blue Book laws I

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actually found references to moon dust

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in the Project Blue Book files we were

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able I was able to determine that moon

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dust began in December of 1958 so this

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is investigations been going on you

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heard you heard virtually nothing about

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it here's an investigation they denied

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existed they were caught in the lies and

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and you still don't get anything any the

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press isn't interested in that and that

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might be part of the problem as well you

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know I wrote this fanciful editorial

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forward the parent caste newsletter just

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the other week and I suggested that the

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way this country has been conditioned

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about the government about whether we

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02:19:40,600 --> 02:19:38,570
should trust our government President

3444
02:19:43,480 --> 02:19:40,610
Obama could deliver a press conference

3445
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saying yes we are aware that there are

3446
02:19:48,450 --> 02:19:45,980
possible alien visitors in our skies

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they don't represent an apparent threat

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02:19:52,720 --> 02:19:50,660
and most people wouldn't believe it

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don't wonder what gee what's on Survivor

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tonight know that it would be even more

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disgusting than that it would be who's

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on the bachelor/bachelorette now who's

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the bachelor what is what is Kim

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Kardashian and I hesitate to mention

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that name what has she done with her

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baby today honey boo boo all right even

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02:20:19,900 --> 02:20:16,910
worse I mean everybody everybody is so

3458
02:20:25,060 --> 02:20:19,910
interested in that sort of or Alec Alec

3459
02:20:26,381 --> 02:20:25,070
Baldwin's latest rant on TV and the

3460
02:20:27,640 --> 02:20:26,391
president says well there's alien

3461
02:20:29,440 --> 02:20:27,650
visitation and they're saying yeah but

3462
02:20:33,310 --> 02:20:29,450
Alec Baldwin was really nasty in this

3463
02:20:35,381 --> 02:20:33,320
this rant you know I'm minding only

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02:20:38,161 --> 02:20:35,391
person on the planet who enjoy Alec

3465
02:20:40,810 --> 02:20:38,171
Baldwin when he played the shadow

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02:20:42,820 --> 02:20:40,820
probably I think I was the only one to

3467
02:20:45,190 --> 02:20:42,830
watch the movie you watch the whole

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02:20:48,490 --> 02:20:45,200
thing I did I thought was over the top

3469
02:20:51,041 --> 02:20:48,500
because you know I remember the original

3470
02:20:53,350 --> 02:20:51,051
character because if you listen on

3471
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Sirius XM radio there's something there

3472
02:20:58,240 --> 02:20:56,301
called when radio was young and I

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02:20:59,110 --> 02:20:58,250
interviewed this guy Greg Bell who runs

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02:21:02,170 --> 02:20:59,120
the show from my

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02:21:03,910 --> 02:21:02,180
Tech radio show and they play the old

3476
02:21:07,150 --> 02:21:03,920
recordings of the shadow in the Lone

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02:21:09,160 --> 02:21:07,160
Ranger in Superman and all that stuff so

3478
02:21:11,710 --> 02:21:09,170
I got to listen to it I read a couple of

3479
02:21:14,530 --> 02:21:11,720
the novels and what they did is they

3480
02:21:16,060 --> 02:21:14,540
took the character of the shadow for

3481
02:21:18,400 --> 02:21:16,070
that movie with Alec Baldwin and they

3482
02:21:20,470 --> 02:21:18,410
could saturate everything it was way

3483
02:21:23,830 --> 02:21:20,480
over the top for maybe that's why it

3484
02:21:25,600 --> 02:21:23,840
really didn't go down very well

3485
02:21:28,320 --> 02:21:25,610
but then if you consider the shadow on

3486
02:21:33,040 --> 02:21:28,330
the background it's just Batman Begins

3487
02:21:37,091 --> 02:21:33,050
the first part of the shadow resembles

3488
02:21:39,430 --> 02:21:37,101
Batman Begins where Bruce Wayne goes to

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02:21:43,060 --> 02:21:39,440
the Orient or somewhere and discovers

3490
02:21:44,370 --> 02:21:43,070
the abilities as a fighter to become you

3491
02:21:48,670 --> 02:21:44,380
know forget about the Caped Crusader

3492
02:21:51,310 --> 02:21:48,680
let's go back to disclosure okay now

3493
02:21:55,210 --> 02:21:51,320
what is the best way if there is a

3494
02:21:58,051 --> 02:21:55,220
secret to be held to persuade the

3495
02:22:01,780 --> 02:21:58,061
government to release it now Leslie Kane

3496
02:22:03,700 --> 02:22:01,790
feels her method which is don't go to

3497
02:22:06,670 --> 02:22:03,710
the government saying we know you have a

3498
02:22:08,710 --> 02:22:06,680
secret tell us the truth we know they're

3499
02:22:11,920 --> 02:22:08,720
spaceships don't do that just give them

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the evidence and let them draw their own

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conclusions that naturally follow from

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02:22:19,511 --> 02:22:16,851
the evidence forced them to accept it

3503
02:22:21,280 --> 02:22:19,521
may be by just overwhelming them don't

3504
02:22:24,310 --> 02:22:21,290
give them conclusions what do you think

3505
02:22:26,110 --> 02:22:24,320
well I think I think the way that Steve

3506
02:22:29,190 --> 02:22:26,120
Bassett was doing it with his Citizen

3507
02:22:32,860 --> 02:22:29,200
hearing was it was a good way to to

3508
02:22:35,620 --> 02:22:32,870
bring forward people who were who have

3509
02:22:38,261 --> 02:22:35,630
some good information to share I think I

3510
02:22:41,051 --> 02:22:38,271
think the missile ears Salas and the

3511
02:22:42,580 --> 02:22:41,061
boys it's a good way because you can go

3512
02:22:44,591 --> 02:22:42,590
back and could document that you can

3513
02:22:47,710 --> 02:22:44,601
document a lot of that stuff that was

3514
02:22:50,230 --> 02:22:47,720
going on at Malmstrom Air Force Base in

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02:22:52,780 --> 02:22:50,240
in 1967 and other other Air Force bases

3516
02:22:54,190 --> 02:22:52,790
later on you can document that stuff and

3517
02:22:57,790 --> 02:22:54,200
you can say you know this was a matter

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02:22:59,440 --> 02:22:57,800
of national security at the time and so

3519
02:23:01,390 --> 02:22:59,450
we can understand why you were less than

3520
02:23:02,890 --> 02:23:01,400
candid about it but the documentation

3521
02:23:04,960 --> 02:23:02,900
exists that these events didn't take

3522
02:23:07,270 --> 02:23:04,970
place in fact in the one of the unit

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02:23:10,210 --> 02:23:07,280
histories it was after the missiles were

3524
02:23:12,460 --> 02:23:10,220
shut down by this by this UFO could the

3525
02:23:13,010 --> 02:23:12,470
unit history says there were no UFOs

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02:23:15,260 --> 02:23:13,020
involved

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02:23:18,109 --> 02:23:15,270
this incident y-you can bring it up if

3528
02:23:20,090 --> 02:23:18,119
there were none involved you know so so

3529
02:23:21,740 --> 02:23:20,100
you know you can document these sorts of

3530
02:23:23,870 --> 02:23:21,750
things I think I think that is really

3531
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the way to do it is is present the best

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02:23:28,849 --> 02:23:26,970
evidence that you possibly can and I

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02:23:31,099 --> 02:23:28,859
think that was what happened in in the

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02:23:33,740 --> 02:23:31,109
mid 1990s on the Roswell cases we were

3535
02:23:35,540 --> 02:23:33,750
getting very close to to the answer and

3536
02:23:37,130 --> 02:23:35,550
a lot of people were listening what we

3537
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had to say and the Air Force felt that

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it it had to do something to kind of

3539
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derail the investigation and they were

3540
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able to do that with their with their

3541
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project mogul nonsense I mean if you

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look at the big thick Roswell report

3543
02:23:51,439 --> 02:23:49,739
very little of it has to do with the

3544
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wrongful case it's all this balloon crap

3545
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thrown in there that makes it look

3546
02:23:57,769 --> 02:23:55,729
really impressive and really

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scientifically investigated but when you

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get down to it it's really just one or

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two key phrases out of a diary or the

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field notes of the scientists involved

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in the project mogul releases that that

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are key all the rest is padding that to

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hello this is John Burroughs one of the

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witnesses to the Rendlesham UFO incident

3652
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you're listening to the podcast the gold

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with gene and Chris on the para cast our

3654
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final segment with Kevin D Randall

3655
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extremely prolific author of over a

3656
02:29:07,710 --> 02:29:05,820
hundred books including alien mysteries

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02:29:09,750 --> 02:29:07,720
conspiracies and cover-ups and he's

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02:29:12,240 --> 02:29:09,760
probably got ten more books he sent to

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02:29:14,670 --> 02:29:12,250
his publisher right Kevin yes and and

3660
02:29:17,280 --> 02:29:14,680
there's ebooks on Kindle that you can go

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02:29:19,740 --> 02:29:17,290
buy for a song practically if you want

3662
02:29:23,011 --> 02:29:19,750
an e-book so if Chris sings a song he

3663
02:29:25,380 --> 02:29:23,021
gets a free book to the right people

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02:29:33,080 --> 02:29:25,390
he probably if he sings a song if I sing

3665
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a song they will pay me to stop probably

3666
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the book that we've been talking about

3667
02:29:40,320 --> 02:29:37,720
it's on Kindle there's some other other

3668
02:29:41,430 --> 02:29:40,330
books Project Blue Book exposed is on

3669
02:29:43,830 --> 02:29:41,440
Kindle and you can get it as an

3670
02:29:45,740 --> 02:29:43,840
audiobook there's a book called conduct

3671
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conversations which is a bizarre

3672
02:29:50,280 --> 02:29:48,370
investigation that I had done on it

3673
02:29:52,591 --> 02:29:50,290
turned into a past life regression that

3674
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dealt with some really bizarre things so

3675
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there's some interesting stuff at Kindle

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and you can you can buy the latest book

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there as well and it's cheaper than

3678
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buying it in a you know book store which

3679
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probably I'll make Barnes & Noble really

3680
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happy I said that and my publisher well

3681
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I can't wait for Kindles to come out

3682
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with a function that every time you you

3683
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move your finger and change a page you

3684
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you hear a page turn and a little puff

3685
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of newsprint comes out well what I think

3686
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is interesting you can use do it slowly

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enough you can read the pages you're

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turning you read it backwards you can

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see it on the other side of the paper

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when you turn the page I was always one

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of these I'm not gonna get a kennel I

3692
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like the the tactile nature of holding

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the book in my hand and then I ended up

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with an iPad and I got the Kindle app

3695
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and it's just great yeah yeah it's all

3696
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downhill from there my girlfriend just

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upgraded to the larger 8 inch screen and

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and she's offered to give me her Kindle

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or Knight I've been reading Walter

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Bosley's latest book on the Senora arrow

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Club or attempting to actually have been

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reading the one prior to that and I can

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see the attraction to her because boy he

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can fit a lot of books in that one

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little tablet wesley not only that not a

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very few if you find a book you want you

3707
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don't like to go the books

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I'll just I'll just tap on this and it's

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sent directly to my my iPad and I can

3710
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start reading it within minutes yeah

3711
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that's true it is awful convenient it's

3712
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interesting how technology just keeps

3713
02:31:25,470 --> 02:31:22,990
leaping ahead and in leaps and bounds

3714
02:31:28,560 --> 02:31:25,480
there's no question that it's going to

3715
02:31:31,290 --> 02:31:28,570
turn the newspaper or and and possibly

3716
02:31:33,630 --> 02:31:31,300
you know publishing just in total just

3717
02:31:36,240 --> 02:31:33,640
hold the upside down being being an old

3718
02:31:37,261 --> 02:31:36,250
magazine writer I used to go to the

3719
02:31:38,880 --> 02:31:37,271
magazine racks and look at all the

3720
02:31:40,140 --> 02:31:38,890
magazines that were there and can I

3721
02:31:41,790 --> 02:31:40,150
write for this magazine and this

3722
02:31:43,470 --> 02:31:41,800
magazine and do I have an interest here

3723
02:31:45,180 --> 02:31:43,480
and how do you and now you go to the

3724
02:31:46,950 --> 02:31:45,190
magazine racks and they're just so

3725
02:31:48,870 --> 02:31:46,960
reduced and if you're not interested in

3726
02:31:50,880 --> 02:31:48,880
tattoos guitars cars or guns you're

3727
02:31:52,380 --> 02:31:50,890
screwed you know that's basically all

3728
02:31:55,380 --> 02:31:52,390
the published magazines about any more

3729
02:31:56,670 --> 02:31:55,390
header celebrity gossip all right did

3730
02:31:59,370 --> 02:31:56,680
they have that well they've got

3731
02:32:02,190 --> 02:31:59,380
Entertainment Weekly estate it was a man

3732
02:32:04,290 --> 02:32:02,200
Time magazine is still out as a print

3733
02:32:04,770 --> 02:32:04,300
version and how much long is that going

3734
02:32:08,460 --> 02:32:04,780
to last

3735
02:32:10,020 --> 02:32:08,470
I think a week or two by the way I was

3736
02:32:12,840 --> 02:32:10,030
on the car I was I was the man of the

3737
02:32:14,640 --> 02:32:12,850
year twice and on Time magazine the

3738
02:32:16,680 --> 02:32:14,650
we're we're in Iraq it was the American

3739
02:32:18,930 --> 02:32:16,690
soldier who was the person of the year

3740
02:32:21,000 --> 02:32:18,940
for time and the next year it was it was

3741
02:32:23,790 --> 02:32:21,010
you you know they had the cover with the

3742
02:32:25,261 --> 02:32:23,800
silver thing on it there yeah so we all

3743
02:32:30,511 --> 02:32:25,271
were the person of the year and Time

3744
02:32:31,051 --> 02:32:30,521
magazine speak for yourself okay we had

3745
02:32:33,270 --> 02:32:31,061
questions

3746
02:32:35,820 --> 02:32:33,280
well the question we're going to have

3747
02:32:38,551 --> 02:32:35,830
here is I guess back to disclosure and

3748
02:32:40,890 --> 02:32:38,561
let's look at the realistic situation as

3749
02:32:43,200 --> 02:32:40,900
it stands now we've had the Citizen

3750
02:32:47,040 --> 02:32:43,210
hearing on disclosure we have Leslie

3751
02:32:48,320 --> 02:32:47,050
Cain's efforts to talk to people in the

3752
02:32:51,930 --> 02:32:48,330
government in the scientific community

3753
02:32:53,940 --> 02:32:51,940
how close are we getting the government

3754
02:32:55,980 --> 02:32:53,950
has no motivation for disclosure there's

3755
02:32:56,700 --> 02:32:55,990
no reason for them to disclose and

3756
02:32:59,100 --> 02:32:56,710
that's the problem

3757
02:33:00,301 --> 02:32:59,110
you know if the aliens lie arrive and

3758
02:33:01,560 --> 02:33:00,311
they're gonna have to it's gonna have to

3759
02:33:04,320 --> 02:33:01,570
be disclosure because they have no

3760
02:33:07,261 --> 02:33:04,330
alternative but at this point I cannot

3761
02:33:10,080 --> 02:33:07,271
see a motivation for the government to

3762
02:33:11,820 --> 02:33:10,090
disclose that there is alien dissipation

3763
02:33:14,070 --> 02:33:11,830
there's just no motivation point yeah I

3764
02:33:16,860 --> 02:33:14,080
absolutely agree with that Kevin I and I

3765
02:33:18,750 --> 02:33:16,870
think there may be a tie-in with other

3766
02:33:23,190 --> 02:33:18,760
countries coming forward and opening up

3767
02:33:26,370 --> 02:33:23,200
their UFO FILES apart possibly as a

3768
02:33:30,000 --> 02:33:26,380
to keep the heat off the US who

3769
02:33:32,160 --> 02:33:30,010
obviously is sitting on quite a bit of

3770
02:33:35,820 --> 02:33:32,170
information but but there's also that

3771
02:33:38,190 --> 02:33:35,830
other aspect of this that people tend to

3772
02:33:39,930 --> 02:33:38,200
forget and that is that much of this

3773
02:33:42,900 --> 02:33:39,940
information may be in the private sector

3774
02:33:44,640 --> 02:33:42,910
in the aerospace industry and of course

3775
02:33:47,400 --> 02:33:44,650
that is out of reach because of a

3776
02:33:51,780 --> 02:33:47,410
proprietary knowledge and these

3777
02:33:55,261 --> 02:33:51,790
companies are not you can't do an FOI a

3778
02:33:57,240 --> 02:33:55,271
on an aerospace company well my point

3779
02:34:00,690 --> 02:33:57,250
point doesn't work very well anymore

3780
02:34:02,220 --> 02:34:00,700
anyway no I've sent probably a half

3781
02:34:04,080 --> 02:34:02,230
dozen request to the Secretary of the

3782
02:34:06,841 --> 02:34:04,090
Air Force to talk about their

3783
02:34:08,881 --> 02:34:06,851
investigation back in the 1995 I haven't

3784
02:34:10,200 --> 02:34:08,891
even got a response they think you

3785
02:34:15,120 --> 02:34:10,210
should send your card and said well we

3786
02:34:16,830 --> 02:34:15,130
were looking at this we will get back to

3787
02:34:18,140 --> 02:34:16,840
you with this they don't even bother

3788
02:34:22,610 --> 02:34:18,150
with that anymore

3789
02:34:25,740 --> 02:34:22,620
hmm so do you think this whole effort is

3790
02:34:27,750 --> 02:34:25,750
going by the wayside that these requests

3791
02:34:29,820 --> 02:34:27,760
are more and more as more and more

3792
02:34:32,940 --> 02:34:29,830
requests are being filed you think

3793
02:34:35,400 --> 02:34:32,950
they're just being ignored I think so

3794
02:34:38,370 --> 02:34:35,410
yes I think that I think that again

3795
02:34:40,830 --> 02:34:38,380
would happen there's no the teeth have

3796
02:34:44,520 --> 02:34:40,840
been taken out of the law after after

3797
02:34:45,690 --> 02:34:44,530
9/11 and and they ignore them I've I've

3798
02:34:49,080 --> 02:34:45,700
you know I've had some very good luck

3799
02:34:50,881 --> 02:34:49,090
with the requests through through the

3800
02:34:53,940 --> 02:34:50,891
internet to the Air Force on a couple of

3801
02:34:56,671 --> 02:34:53,950
other things but mostly the the written

3802
02:34:58,620 --> 02:34:56,681
requests are being ignored and I've

3803
02:34:59,910 --> 02:34:58,630
talked to some other other researchers

3804
02:35:01,261 --> 02:34:59,920
about that maybe said the same thing

3805
02:35:02,150 --> 02:35:01,271
that FOIA just doesn't work the way it

3806
02:35:06,870 --> 02:35:02,160
used to

3807
02:35:09,301 --> 02:35:06,880
well it's funny when we can even we the

3808
02:35:12,540 --> 02:35:09,311
people can't don't have recourse to find

3809
02:35:15,330 --> 02:35:12,550
out what we the people are actually you

3810
02:35:16,770 --> 02:35:15,340
know should should be privy to if we

3811
02:35:19,381 --> 02:35:16,780
make them go through the proper channels

3812
02:35:21,000 --> 02:35:19,391
to make a proper request and and that

3813
02:35:22,381 --> 02:35:21,010
goes along with with much of what's

3814
02:35:24,690 --> 02:35:22,391
going on in the Clinton country right

3815
02:35:26,100 --> 02:35:24,700
now well I sent a request I gave him the

3816
02:35:27,511 --> 02:35:26,110
title of the document I wanted I gave

3817
02:35:29,430 --> 02:35:27,521
him the date I gave him the who signed

3818
02:35:32,190 --> 02:35:29,440
it I gave them all the information about

3819
02:35:34,921 --> 02:35:32,200
it that you could possibly want and they

3820
02:35:37,750 --> 02:35:34,931
will Fang said your information is

3821
02:35:41,360 --> 02:35:39,950
she got the name of the author you got

3822
02:35:42,710 --> 02:35:41,370
the title of a document you got the date

3823
02:35:46,390 --> 02:35:42,720
of the vacuum and you got where it was

3824
02:35:49,690 --> 02:35:46,400
issued what do you what more do you want

3825
02:35:52,700 --> 02:35:49,700
yep I think that's pretty indicative of

3826
02:35:54,500 --> 02:35:52,710
the foyer getting watered down I should

3827
02:35:55,160 --> 02:35:54,510
put it in the teeth the teeth have gone

3828
02:35:57,800 --> 02:35:55,170
out of it

3829
02:35:59,480 --> 02:35:57,810
it's unfortunate well I suppose if they

3830
02:36:02,690 --> 02:35:59,490
want an excuse they can say it's the

3831
02:36:05,900 --> 02:36:02,700
sequester or they needed more money to

3832
02:36:07,100 --> 02:36:05,910
go into the NSA data centers so

3833
02:36:09,710 --> 02:36:07,110
therefore they don't have enough money

3834
02:36:12,080 --> 02:36:09,720
for Freedom of Information requests and

3835
02:36:13,820 --> 02:36:12,090
to honor them Kevin Randall this may be

3836
02:36:15,770 --> 02:36:13,830
the final question of the evening here

3837
02:36:18,140 --> 02:36:15,780
is any of this going to happen in our

3838
02:36:20,240 --> 02:36:18,150
lifetime will begin answer to Roswell

3839
02:36:21,560 --> 02:36:20,250
will we have some kind of disclosure I'm

3840
02:36:23,960 --> 02:36:21,570
hoping I'm hoping that we'll have an

3841
02:36:26,300 --> 02:36:23,970
answer for Roswell here soon with our

3842
02:36:29,060 --> 02:36:26,310
team efforts they're trying to kind of

3843
02:36:30,770 --> 02:36:29,070
uncover stuff but I think eventually

3844
02:36:33,200 --> 02:36:30,780
we'll have disclosure we'll know what's

3845
02:36:35,230 --> 02:36:33,210
going on eventually it'll get to the

3846
02:36:37,460 --> 02:36:35,240
point where it can't be hidden anymore

3847
02:36:39,140 --> 02:36:37,470
but we've got it we've got to remove the

3848
02:36:41,719 --> 02:36:39,150
ridicule factor from it well if you see

3849
02:36:42,820 --> 02:36:41,729
a UFO you must be crazy type stuff and

3850
02:36:45,620 --> 02:36:42,830
and that's and that's a very powerful

3851
02:36:47,840 --> 02:36:45,630
powerful weapon they have against us

3852
02:36:50,300 --> 02:36:47,850
making fun of people who see stuff and

3853
02:36:51,469 --> 02:36:50,310
the reporters don't help I remember when

3854
02:36:53,480 --> 02:36:51,479
when the guys were launching the

3855
02:36:55,430 --> 02:36:53,490
balloons in New Jersey trying to prove

3856
02:36:57,170 --> 02:36:55,440
that UFO investigators were credulous

3857
02:36:58,700 --> 02:36:57,180
and would believe anything and you've

3858
02:37:00,140 --> 02:36:58,710
got a news reporter and she's talking to

3859
02:37:01,700 --> 02:37:00,150
some little girl with her lollipop and

3860
02:37:03,500 --> 02:37:01,710
says uh what do you think of the aliens

3861
02:37:05,930 --> 02:37:03,510
I'm thinking what possible information

3862
02:37:08,410 --> 02:37:05,940
can you get from this this six year old

3863
02:37:10,820 --> 02:37:08,420
kid that is going to be of any value

3864
02:37:12,260 --> 02:37:10,830
well she tells you about her UFO

3865
02:37:14,990 --> 02:37:12,270
abduction it's gonna get pretty crazy

3866
02:37:16,430 --> 02:37:15,000
hey Kevin Randall tell our listeners

3867
02:37:18,770 --> 02:37:16,440
where they can find more of the stuff

3868
02:37:20,240 --> 02:37:18,780
that you write about the latest book is

3869
02:37:21,980 --> 02:37:20,250
out in the bookstores you can get it

3870
02:37:24,680 --> 02:37:21,990
there you can find it on Amazon of

3871
02:37:27,380 --> 02:37:24,690
course is either a hard copy or for your

3872
02:37:30,290 --> 02:37:27,390
e-reader and I'm sure Barnes and Noble

3873
02:37:32,540 --> 02:37:30,300
has it has it on there look as well so

3874
02:37:35,330 --> 02:37:32,550
it's all the e-readers available you can

3875
02:37:36,320 --> 02:37:35,340
just go to Kindle type and Kevin Randle

3876
02:37:38,450 --> 02:37:36,330
you can take a look at all the books

3877
02:37:40,820 --> 02:37:38,460
that I have available on on Kindle and

3878
02:37:42,770 --> 02:37:40,830
you have a blog yes I do

3879
02:37:45,620 --> 02:37:42,780
thank you it's called a different

3880
02:37:48,680 --> 02:37:45,630
perspective it's at Kevin Randle blog

3881
02:37:50,000 --> 02:37:48,690
spot.com and there's a lot of

3882
02:37:52,670 --> 02:37:50,010
information I did a lot

3883
02:37:55,790 --> 02:37:52,680
stuff about the Citizen hearing after I

3884
02:37:57,889 --> 02:37:55,800
got back from from there and some things

3885
02:38:02,120 --> 02:37:57,899
that we that we found out since then and

3886
02:38:04,370 --> 02:38:02,130
some discussion of the pre arnold 1947

3887
02:38:07,790 --> 02:38:04,380
UFO sightings and you can find chris

3888
02:38:11,000 --> 02:38:07,800
stuff over at our strange planet calm

3889
02:38:13,609 --> 02:38:11,010
that's our strange planet calm it's

3890
02:38:16,609 --> 02:38:13,619
still being updated you can find us at

3891
02:38:19,040 --> 02:38:16,619
the para cast calm that's the para cast

3892
02:38:21,639 --> 02:38:19,050
calm there is a power cast fan club two

3893
02:38:24,290 --> 02:38:21,649
of them in fact on facebook maybe

3894
02:38:26,599 --> 02:38:24,300
someday we'll learn to make it one and

3895
02:38:28,519 --> 02:38:26,609
of course you can check us on twitter

3896
02:38:30,080 --> 02:38:28,529
where we know as the para cast and by

3897
02:38:31,460 --> 02:38:30,090
the way in the future episode we're

3898
02:38:34,910 --> 02:38:31,470
gonna bring you up-to-date on the

3899
02:38:36,349 --> 02:38:34,920
incredible cash Landrum UFO case from

3900
02:38:38,660 --> 02:38:36,359
nineteen eighty coming in the next

3901
02:38:40,340 --> 02:38:38,670
couple of weeks and lots more but Jean

3902
02:38:42,500 --> 02:38:40,350
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3903
02:38:44,569 --> 02:38:42,510
Randall thanks for joining us this week

3904
02:38:47,149 --> 02:38:44,579
on the power cast well thank you very

3905
02:38:55,410 --> 02:38:47,159
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3906
02:39:00,639 --> 02:38:58,929
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3907
02:39:03,580 --> 02:39:00,649
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3908
02:39:07,360 --> 02:39:03,590
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02:39:11,380 --> 02:39:07,370
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